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Basic 3D Effect Problem

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Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby liz » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:54 pm

What is the trick to using the Basic 3D Effect? I gather I must be missing something. I've adjust the swivel and tilt - looks good when I view it in preview, but is jerky when viewing it after burnt to dvd. I haven't had any problem with others.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby Steve Grisetti » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:16 pm

What happens if you output the segment as a Dv-AVI using Share/Computer/AVI? Or even WMV? How does that clip look when played in Windows Media Player?

What type of camcorder did your original video come from?

Which settings did you set up your Premiere Elements project with?
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby liz » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:55 pm

I'm working only with pictures and I'm putting effects with them to try to animate them. It looks great with everything except using this one effect. I did output to AVI and the pictures I used the Basic 3 D on are a bit jerky. I'm learning the process for the project settings, but don't completely understand it yet so your help is appreciated as to where things should be set for a project as such.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:42 am

Two suggestions:

1) Ensure that the photos are no larger than 1000x750 pixels in size.
2) Right-click on each photo and select Field Options/Flicker Removal.

You should see a pretty significant improvement in the results!
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Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby liz » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:24 pm

My pictures were actually smaller than 1000x750 so I increased them to close to this in Photoshop Elements. I selected flicker removal for the pictures I've used this effect on. Unfortunately, I haven't seen a change. Any other ideas?
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:42 pm

No. This should not happen. How are you judging the results? In a WMV output, as I advised?

Is it a 320x240 WMV, so that the size of the file is not an issue?
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby liz » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:32 pm

I missed that point sorry. Previously I exported as an avi. I just did the 320x240 wmv output. It looks fine when I view it. I then went to get this file to add to the rest of my video project in premiere elements as I want to burn the whole project as a dvd. The wmv file is small when viewed in PRE and when I enlarge it it's quality is not clear. I'm missing something.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:07 pm

The WMV is not meant to replace the segmet of your project, Liz. It was just a test to see what was causing the jerkiness.

If it works fine, then the jerkiness was likely related to your playback rather than to something Premiere Elements was doing wrong.

If you apply the Flicker Removal, as I suggested, your DVD should look fine.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby liz » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:58 pm

Hi, I've tried all of the suggestions. It helped on some of the clips. On some clips I adjusted the tilt and swivel in 3D which I really liked, but it still gave me a flicker (jerkiness). When I only went with one or the other it seemed fine. I hadn't responded earlier because I like to work at it on my own which has now been hours. Give up with this effect to work with ease :-( Any other ideas? Thank you :-)
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby RJ Johnston » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:57 pm

I have to tell you, it is really jerky here just in preview. Something isn't right.
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Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby liz » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:20 pm

Hi,

What type of camcorder did your original video come from? - pictures only.

Which settings did you set up your Premiere Elements project with? NTSC-DV-Standard 48KHz.

What happens if you output the segment as a Dv-AVI using Share/Computer/AVI? Or even WMV? How does that clip look when played in Windows Media Player? - I always output to Dv-AVI as I'm working on the project in sections. Brought the avi back in a few times to my project and it still did it. I outputted to WMV 320x240 and I thought it looked better which I previously posted, but later others looking at it said no it didn't look better.

Ensure that the photos are no larger than 1000x750 pixels in size. Did this - some were smaller so I changed to this size in Photoshop Elements 9.

Right-click on each photo and select Field Options/Flicker Removal. - Hadn't done this so I did it to all of them. It helped somewhat, but not enough to make the end product presentable.

I have burnt to DVD 3 separate times with this project and played on two different tvs and dvd players with the same flicker/shaky result.

Help/ideas anyone :-(
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby RJ Johnston » Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:36 pm

One problem turned out to be duplicate Basic3D Effects. Somehow I managed to drop 2 of those effects on the same clip and didn't realize it. But even after removing the duplicate, there was still some jerkiness. What I did was export to 1280x720P 59.94 fps h.264. That turned out very smooth. Then I put that on the timeline. Extremely smooooth 3D action after burning to a DVD from a DV-AVI NTSC project. That was an 800x600 photo.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:23 am

RJ Johnston wrote:One problem turned out to be duplicate Basic3D Effects. Somehow I managed to drop 2 of those effects on the same clip and didn't realize it. But even after removing the duplicate, there was still some jerkiness....

Glad to note that I am not the only one to have erroneously applied more than one instance of that particular effect. :???: In my case I didn't notice any undue jerkiness, just very strange motion behaviour of the clips I was working with. My solution was to remove all copies of the effect from each affected clip then reapply just the one instance.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby RJ Johnston » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:39 am

I really believe that somehow 2 effects were applied when I dragged the effect once to the preview window. Yeah. That's it. Software error. It was software error that caused two clips to be applied with one drag and drop.
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Re: Basic 3D Effect Problem

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:45 am

RJ Johnston wrote:I really believe that somehow 2 effects were applied when I dragged the effect once to the preview window. Yeah. That's it. Software error. It was software error that caused two clips to be applied with one drag and drop.

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