Project rendering problem

[John 'twosheds' McDonald]

.....Yes I do have a large number of files in both my Media Cache and Media Cache Files folders....

What proportion of the C: drive is free space? That may be where the problem lies - insufficient workspace.

[russhart]

John I have plenty of workspace thanks. 230Gb free on a 320Gb partition.

[John 'twosheds' McDonald]

OK. Was just a thought.

[Steve Grisetti]

Interesting that two people using Windows 7 64-bit are having almost identical problems!
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Smells like a Windows update issue to me.

[Bob]

Smells like a Windows update issue to me.

I'm using Windows 7 64-bit with all the updates applied and I don't see this problem. But, I'm using Premiere Elements 7 not 8. Russ mentioned background rendering. That's new with PreL 8 and lots of people have complained about the poor rendering performance of that. If he hasn't already, he should turn that off in the preferences. If the problem persists, I think it's time to report it to Adobe.

Those yellow bars for the clips in the transition properties window are normal. Those appear that way in Premiere Elements 7 also. I don't recall any color other than yellow. It's probably just a way to differentiate between the clips and the gray transition bar.

[Chuck Engels]

Turning off Background Rendering may just solve the problem completely, good thinking Bob

[Steve Grisetti]

FWIW, the 8.01 update for Premiere Elements 8 automatically disables the Background Rendering feature. So if you want it, you have to manually turn it on.

[russhart]

I have been doing some further experimenting with this project and have the following comments -

1. It is not related to Win 7 64bit as other projects I am working on do render correctly.

2. I have removed all effects but retained transitions and fades, in case the effects were corrupted. The project will still not render manually or with background rendering switched on or off.

3. The project consists of a mixture of 4:3, 16:9 mini DV avi's and photo's reduced to 864x576. The preset used was D1/DV PAL (1.0940). I have started a new project in D1/DV PAL Widescreen (1.4587) and have added a sample of each of the 4:3 and 16:9 clips from the problem project and this time the rendering works. I can only conclude that there is a corruption somewhere in the problem project only.

4. If the clips shown in yellow in the timeline of the clip or transition properties window are "normal" as you have suggested, then why are most of the clips in this project shown as grey? Could this indicate a problem?

In the meantime all your comments have given me a better understanding of this application, thanks.

Russ

[Steve Grisetti]

I am not sure what you mean by the "clips shown in yellow on the timeline."

[Bob]

Russ,

I couldn't find any documentation on what these color bars represent, so I was doing some experimentation and found that, in Pre 7 at least, the colors changed when I added the same clip multiple times to the timeline. I could get yellow, light blue/gray, and gray for the same clip depending on which was added first, second, and third. Obviously, it's telling us something, but what is the question. It could be as simple as indicating the ordinal number of that instance. I don't think those colors indicate a problem though. Odd.

[russhart]

Steve, I am referring to my attachment in my message dated Fri 23rd @10:20am. (And a new one with this message)

Bob, don't you just hate it when you want to understand something that must have a meaning but nothing explains it (eg. the meaning of life)

The following attachment shows what I mean where from a single DV video PRE8 created these adjoining clips using Scene Detect. The first clip is grey and the second is yellow. Hope this explains it a little better?

Note the red line above the timeline indicating that nothing has been rendered (because it won't, hence my post)

[russhart]

FWIW. I have completed redoing this project from scratch and this time the rendering worked successfully. The only change I made was to use the widescreen preset as the clips were both 4:3 & 16:9.

I have also opened another uncompleted project which also had the same problem with rendering not working. Therefore the only conclusion I can come to is that these were both PRE4 projects and while the PRE8 readme states that PRE8 will run PRE4 projects successfully I now believe this to be incorrect.

[Chuck Engels]

It doesn't always work Russ, that is why we always recommend finishing a project in the version it was created in.

[Steve Grisetti]

I always recommend against opening older version projects with newer versions of the program, Russ.

I also always recommend: Trust Muvipix; be wary of Adobe's marketing copy.