Rendering Problem

[EleanorAliza]

Hi Everyone,
I have been working on a project, periodically rendering, I read that you could delete the rendered files by going into >timeline >delete render files and then re-render anew. When I went to render the whole project again, it only did a few photo clips in the very beginning (I am doing a slideshow). I checked the timeline view and noticed that it only rendered up to where the timeline ruler pointer stopped (which was only a few clips into the slideshow). I had been in the timeline earlier fooling around with the current time indicator and I might have dragged the timeline ruler backwards to the beginning of the slideshow. Now when I add more photo clips, transitions etc the timeline ruler doesn't move with them. To get the render to work after I add clips etc. I have to physically drag the little point at the end of the ruler past the clips, then it will render and turn green. What did I touch to make the ruler not move along with the clips I am adding?

Thanks Aliza

[Dave McElderry]

Aliza, for further reference, the area that you're referring to as the ruler is known as the Work Area Bar (WAB). Not a big deal, but now you'll know what people are talking about when they use the term. Zoom out on your project until the entire project can be seen in the timeline. Then double-click on the WAB and it will expand to cover the entire project. You should then be able to render the entire project.

[EleanorAliza]

Aliza, for further reference, the area that you're referring to as the ruler is known as the Work Area Bar (WAB). Not a big deal, but now you'll know what people are talking about when they use the term. Zoom out on your project until the entire project can be seen in the timeline. Then double-click on the WAB and it will expand to cover the entire project. You should then be able to render the entire project.

Thanks for the clarification. I did what you suggested and yes it works. But why do I have to do that now, when before whenever I added a clip etc all I had to do was hit enter and it rendered right up to the newest clip I put in? Did I change a setting somehow by mistake?

Thanks Aliza

[Dave McElderry]

Thanks for the clarification. I did what you suggested and yes it works. But why do I have to do that now, when before whenever I added a clip etc all I had to do was hit enter and it rendered right up to the newest clip I put in? Did I change a setting somehow by mistake?

It's by design. If you manually adjust the WAB by dragging either the left or right end, it will stay that length even if you add to or change the timeline content. The purpose is that you can specify a portion of the timeline for specific functions. For example, you can export your project as a file, and in the export options you can specify to only export the portion under the WAB. It sounds like you accidently dragged the right end of the WAB until it was up against the left end, essentially making it have a length of zero.

[EleanorAliza]

Thanks for the clarification. I did what you suggested and yes it works. But why do I have to do that now, when before whenever I added a clip etc all I had to do was hit enter and it rendered right up to the newest clip I put in? Did I change a setting somehow by mistake?

It's by design. If you manually adjust the WAB by dragging either the left or right end, it will stay that length even if you add to or change the timeline content. The purpose is that you can specify a portion of the timeline for specific functions. For example, you can export your project as a file, and in the export options you can specify to only export the portion under the WAB. It sounds like you accidently dragged the right end of the WAB until it was up against the left end, essentially making it have a length of zero.

Thanks so much for all this info. I understand now. The WAB must have been extended the full length when I started my project. I must have dragged one end or the other towards each other, thereby making it only ten or so clips long in the very beginning of the clip area, so when I added new photo clips at about the five minute area, they did not render. I have now dragged it out to cover the full visible length. If I notice it is not light grey when I am working in that area I will drag it out some more.

I think I know the answer for my question about the minutes on the timeline. It seems that as you add more clips the actual timeline extends its minutes. Is this correct?

Thank you so much again,
Aliza

[Dave McElderry]

That's correct about the timeline extending to whatever length it needs to be. On the original topic, if you use the double-click method that I described the WAB will go back into the "automatic" mode and will also expand as you add more media to the timeline.

EDIT: See post below.

[Dave McElderry]

I take that back. I'm not sure how to get the WAB to go back into automatic mode. Maybe someone else will know.

[Chuck Engels]

You need to zoom completely out as far as you can and then double click on the Work Area Bar, it will then extend the full length of the project.

[Dave McElderry]

You need to zoom completely out as far as you can and then double click on the Work Area Bar, it will then extend the full length of the project.

That's what I said in my first reply (see above). The problem is that after you manually adjust the WAB it stops automatically adjusting to cover the entire project as you add new media. I don't know if there's a way to get it back into that mode.

[Chuck Engels]

What if you close the project and then open it up again?

[momoffduty]

You need to zoom completely out as far as you can and then double click on the Work Area Bar, it will then extend the full length of the project.

That's what I said in my first reply (see above). The problem is that after you manually adjust the WAB it stops automatically adjusting to cover the entire project as you add new media. I don't know if there's a way to get it back into that mode.

Why would you want the WAB to cover the entire project? I render a few photos at a time to check the timing, pans/zooms and then when I render out the next few photos alt+[ for the beginning & alt+] for the end of the WAB.

[Dave McElderry]

What if you close the project and then open it up again?

No luck. I just tried it in both V7 and V9. I even tried completely closing and reopening the programs. It seems that once you've manually adjusted the WAB it can only be adjusted manually. I know I've personally had this issue before, but never spent any time trying to find out if there was a solution. Veteran users tend to learn to make sure the WAB covers the desired material, but I can certainly see how this could be a real stumbling point for newbies.

[Chuck Engels]

I've sent an email to Adobe asking if there is a way to reset this.
If not maybe they can work on fixing it for the next version.
Thanks Dave

[Dave McElderry]

I've sent an email to Adobe asking if there is a way to reset this.
If not maybe they can work on fixing it for the next version.
Thanks Dave

Thank YOU Chuck.

[Jayell]

Why would you want the WAB to cover the entire project? I render a few photos at a time to check the timing, pans/zooms and then when I render out the next few photos alt+[ for the beginning & alt+] for the end of the WAB.

My thoughts exactly! I wouldn't have the patience to constantly re-render and review the entire timeline .