Time Counter In Video

by **GPauba** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:39 am

Hi all! Needy Greg here again. Hopefully I will be able to add to the forum in the future but have just started this video editing stuff at the beginning of this year.

I am putting together a video of a lecture and am working remotely with a couple of "editors" who are providing comments of the produced video. They give me suggestions using the time that their video recorders are displaying when referencing their suggested changes and I'm trying to locate the place they are talking about.

Is there any way to add a video track of a time counter that will be displayed on the video so that we can get the exact (or nearly exact) location?

Or is there an easy way that I'm not seeing?

Thanx again for your help!

G

by **Chuck Engels** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:40 am

There is a tool called DVDate that will help you
http://paul.glagla.free.fr/dvdate_4_en.htm

by **GPauba** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:34 am

I gave this utility a whirl by exporting from PE3 to an AVI file. It doesn't list a "codec" and I don't get the menue items that they show in their online documentation. Looking at the header file from DVdate they have "biCompression = dvsd" does this tell me that I output the file from PE3 incorrectly?

Any suggestions? Here is the header information

Thanx,
G

--------------------------------------------------

*** Header of the file BMWII - Part III.avi ***

analysed on 2007/04/21 at 9:30:57
with DVDate by Paul Glagla version 6.2.1

Visit my website:
http://paul.glagla.free.fr/index_en.htm

--------------- Start of Avi RIFF ---------------
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-------- Start of AVI Main Header --------
MicroSecPerFrame = 33366
MaxBytesPerSec = 0
PaddingGranularity = 0
Flags = 00000010
TotalFrames = 16982
InitialFrames = 0
Streams = 2
SuggestedBufferSize = 185784
Width = 720
Height = 480
Reserved0 = 00000000
Reserved1 = 00000000
Reserved2 = 00000000
Reserved3 = 00000000
----------- End of Main Header -----------

LIST 00000104
strl
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---------------(Video)---------------
------Start of AVI Stream Header------
FourccType = vids
FourccHandler =
Flags = 00000000
Priority = 0
Language = 0000
InitialFrames = 0
Scale = 1001
Rate = 30000
Start = 0
Length = 108249
SuggestedBufferSize = 1036800
Quality = 00000000
SampleSize = 0
rcFrame.Left = 0
rcFrame.Top = 0
rcFrame.Right = 0
rcFrame.Bottom = 0
-------End of AVI Stream Header-------

strf 00000028

----Start of Stream Format Header----
biSize = 40
biWidth = 720
biHeight = 480
biPlanes = 1
biBitCount = 24
biCompression = dvsd
biSizeImage = 120000
biXPelsPerMeter = 0
biYPelsPerMeter = 0
biClrUsed = 0
biClrImportant = 0
-------End of AVI Stream Format-------

indx 00000088

----------Start of an Index----------
wLongsPerEntry = 0004
bIndexSubType = 0
bIndexType = 0
nEntriesInUse = 00000007
dwChunkId = 00dc
qwBaseOffset = 0000000000000000
dwReserved_3 = 7FF668F4
-------------End of Index-------------

LIST 000000EC
strl
strh 00000038

---------------(Audio)---------------
------Start of AVI Stream Header------
FourccType = auds
FourccHandler =
Flags = 00000000
Priority = 0
Language = 0000
InitialFrames = 0
Scale = 4
Rate = 192000
Start = 0
Length = 173371598
SuggestedBufferSize = 192000
Quality = 00002710
SampleSize = 4
rcFrame.Left = 0
rcFrame.Top = 0
rcFrame.Right = 0
rcFrame.Bottom = 0
-------End of AVI Stream Header-------

strf 00000010

----Start of Stream Format Header----
FormatTag = 1
Channels = 2
SamplesPerSec = 48000
AvgBytesPerSec = 192000
BlockAlign = 4
BitsPerSample = 16
cbSize = 28265
-------End of AVI Stream Format-------

indx 00000088

----------Start of an Index----------
wLongsPerEntry = 0004
bIndexSubType = 0
bIndexType = 0
nEntriesInUse = 00000007
dwChunkId = 01wb
qwBaseOffset = 0000000000000000
dwReserved_3 = 7FF8BBAC
-------------End of Index-------------

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LIST 00000020
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LIST 00000020
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RIFF 7FF8F9D0
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LIST 2FDEEF2C
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----------------- End of Header -----------------
K:\BMW DV\Test\BMWII - Part III.avi

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by **Chuck Engels** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:12 am

Hi G,
What is the original format of the clips you are working with? DVDate needs DV-AVI clips which come from a DV or MiniDV Camcorder tape. If you capture directly from a MiniDV Camcorder into Premiere Elements there is no need to export to AVI and then use that exported file in DVDate, use the original.

If you are starting with MPEG or some other format I am afraid you are out of luck.

by **GPauba** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:18 pm

Thanx for the reply Chuck! I am getting the video from a DV-AVI camera but I already had it sliced and diced into my PE3 project. So instead of using the original video "pre-project" and having to do all of the work over again, I exported it in AVI format thinking that I could have my finished project with the timeline in. This way the time would also be correct all the way through the project.

Am I thinking incorrectly? Can I just use DVdate just with the video before it is put into the PE3 Project?

What I would like to have is the time in a video that I can just put into a track so that it displays throughout the project until I have completed our collaborative (sp?) editing and then simply remove that track. Guess I would just need to film a clock with my camera!

Thanx again for your help!

G

by **Chuck Engels** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:38 pm

Guess I would just need to film a clock with my camera!

Not a bad idea

by **John 'twosheds' McDonald** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:54 am

Vague recollection from the Adobe forum that someone had described a way to build a basic timer that you might be able to use. If they are on this forum maybe they could re-post(?). It might be what you are looking for.

by **RJ Johnston** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:28 am

I think the easiest thing to do is shell out $19.95 for DVDate from http://www.dvdate.ru

This one is a plug-in that you use as an effect.

by **GPauba** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:47 am

Thanx to all for your input!

RJ - This thread began with me having troubles with DVdate and getting the time onto my PE3 exported video. Do you have any information on running this as a PE3 plug-in as opposed to using it pre-PE3 on exported video from my camera or exported out of PE3?

Thanx,
G

by **Paul LS** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:56 am

Be carefull, the DVDate Robert is refering to is not the same one as ChucK recommended. Robert's one is a plugin for PE whereas Chuck's was a freeware utility.

by **GPauba** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:31 am

Thanx for the clarification. I'm off to the link from RJ!

G

by **RJ Johnston** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:00 am

It is possible to programmatically create Premiere Element titles where each title is superimposed with the next number in a sequence. You would create a master title in Premiere Elements where you have a text field with 12345678 as the text. Export the title. Using VBScript, create copies of the master and replace the 12345678 in the copies with the next number in the sequence.

I just did that with 1000 titles. I added the titles to the media bin, created a slideshow where each title is 1 frame long. I could then export the timeline as an AVI file. I'm not sure how many titles can be added to the timeline without having memory problems, so you would have to do it in small chunks.

by **GPauba** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:02 pm

You guys/gals rock! The DVdate plugin worked great. Easy to apply to the clips and a breeze to remove after we are finished working on it. Many thanks to the board!

G

by **GPauba** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:49 am

Thanks again to all who helped me with the time display. The DV Date worked great -- just dropping it onto the clip like any other effect. In parts of my project the video was just being displayed on a "plasma screen", and since this control has to be on a video clip, the time displayed was small. So I just filmed a green piece of paper with my camera and downloaded this video to PE3 and applied the DV Date to it and dropped out the green (sorry, forgot the technical term for this at the moment). Worked out well. Thanx again to all.

G

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