The solution to the version 4 project file corruption issue

[Gooder]

Steve,

Not to put a damper on things but how does it work with the other bugs?

I really liked the feature of the music beats but has that been fixed and what about the othe minor bugs?

If these bugs remain then what is the point of upgrading?

Lee

[Chuck Engels]

For the Beat Detect issue;
to prevent the spaces between clips do not use the Create Slideshow option, just drag the clips to the timeline and that is suppose to work.

[Steve Grisetti]

Or you can use the Create Slideshow feature (set it to change at unnumbered markers) -- but expect you might need to go through and manually extend a photo or two to fill in the gaps. (The gaps don't happen consistently, which is why I'm not convinced the problem is related to default still duration setting. In fact, you may find it's not even a problem at all for you.)

[Chuck Engels]

I was told that the problem will not occur if you just drag the clips to the timeline, is that not the case?

[Bob D]

I would like to add another caution to the issue of undocking the panels. I have been able to recreate this a couple of times so I'm confident it is an issue, but probably not something that everyone would do.

My two monitor set up has me putting the monitor panel on the monitor to my right. All other panels are on the left monitor. I used to detach the timeline panel, but we all know now to leave that one alone. But when you drag the monitor panel away it reveals a "Disc Layout" panel. Personally, I don't need that (wasted real estate) so I took that panel and put it to my right monitor, but eventually decided I didn't want it around until I needed it. So I clicked the 'X' to close out the window/panel completely. This is fine until you try to output to Disc.

When you click Disc then an error window pops up to send an error report to Microsoft. After clicking out of this PE4 will shut down. So you can't get to any of the features of the Disc output... like burning to disc or to folder.

The thing to remember is to not close out the Disc Layout panel.

[Chuck Engels]

Thanks Bob, very good advice

[Stregga]

Stregga, Is this for all the new effects? How does one get rid of the watermark? My guess is that it'll cost ya???

King,
I don't know if it's for all the effects or not, I just tried the new blue effects and it gave me the watermarker. I was just testing it to see if I could use the effects till the corruption bug was fixed (which Steve found the fix). When I checked it in PE3 and saw the watermarker I didn't look into it any further, but I will check. As far as how to get rid of it, you got me.
It's similar to the one Adobe puts on PE3's trial download version.

[Gooder]

For the Beat Detect issue;
to prevent the spaces between clips do not use the Create Slideshow option, just drag the clips to the timeline and that is suppose to work.

Thanks for that, Chuck!
We can always amend the gaps if any show!

Good tip Steve with that (unnumbered markers).

Thanks,
Lee

[Doreen L.]

I think this is ridiculous to have do all these things when working with the fourth generation of a software to get it to work properly. There's no excuse for it.

[Robert Barnett]

Wow what a bizarre little bug. You really wouldn't expect the moving of a palette to a different monitor to trigger such a thing. I am amazed that it was tracked down so quickly. I guess all of the complaining here and on Adobe's (still horrible) forums paid off. So at least now we have a workaround until a patch comes out. Nice!

Robert

[Steve Grisetti]

Anyway, this whole thing has kind of emphasized to me that, although it may not be obvious, Adobe really does care about maintaining the quality of its software, even at the consumer level. They know this market can be very fickle, and one piece of buggy software can kill a whole line.

I was very impressed with Adobe's response to my concerns and, particularly under Mike Iampietro's guidance, I think we'll continue to see a more responsive company with regards to this app.

Hope you'll prove me right, Mike!

[Doreen L.]

Steve, you've got to be kidding me here. You're congratulating a company for putting out a product with known problems. How's that?

And with the help of some people here, there are now workarounds to some ofthe problems. You were impressed with their responsiveness? Where was their responsiveness before the product was released? Where was their responsiveness to the beta testers?

[Steve Grisetti]

All I know is that I'm happy with the product now and that Mike and his team made a real effort to resolve my issues.

Yes, you're right. It's still not perfect. But I don't think Adobe is negligently dumping junk software on the market either.

And this round, I'd watch for a patch or two. Mike was always very proactive with Pinnacle's Studio software, whatever it's flaws, and I'd expect him to be at least as much so with Premiere Elements (which has a much more stable fundamental base).

At least that's how I feel this week. I'm willing to give this team the benefit of the doubt here at this point, Doreen. That may well change in another couple of months but, for now, I'm feeling good about this software again.

[Gerry]

But until a patch, the title animations are still buggy, true?

I still can't figure out how to keep a title on the screen longer than its animation.

[Dave McElderry]

I've been wondering when you would pop in here with this observation Chuck. For me, I like the ability to undock and move things around at will, and have been doing so on a dual monitor setup for a while. I also separate the timeline. Although Steve (and others) are happy to have found that the project files are not really corrupt, I think this is still a significant weakness of this version. I'm still working with Version 2, after having tried and being disappointed in Version 3. Got my money back and returned to Version 2. I think I may continue to stay with it.