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HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby thhult » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:55 am

I have the elections to choose between HD standard and HDV (PF25) and also the latter combined with Cine Mode.
After a number of tests to see the difference but so far they are equivalent in terms of sharpness.

The settings in PR Pro are:
1.1080i - interlaced HD video at 25 frames/sec
2. 1080p - progressive-scan HD video
and in Pr El
1. 1080i
2. 720p

Can anyone give me explanation and advice about HDV camera settings (Canon HV40) and Pr Pro/El.

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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Paul LS » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:16 am

I am sure a HV40 user will be along shortly to give you suggestions on the best camera settings. Regarding the settings in Pr Pro/El... the HV40 is a HDV camcorder so you need to use the interlaced project setting... so HDV 1080i and either 25 fps or 30fps dependant on your region.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:41 am

I would recommend the HDV setting with Cine Mode.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby thhult » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:25 am

Yes that was I have read to do, but so far I don´t see any difference. When I start a new project in Premiere Pro is the setting 1080p ? What´s the setting in PrEl ?
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Paul LS » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:44 am

Regarding the settings in Pr Pro/El... the HV40 is a HDV camcorder so you need to use the interlaced project setting... so HDV 1080i and either 25 fps or 30fps dependant on your region.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:51 am

As Paul says, 1080i, 25 if you are PAL, 30 for NTSC.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby thhult » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:23 pm

Ok. 1080i although HDV (PF25) is progressive ?
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:32 pm

Here is some additional info
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=28496
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10665

The HV forums are a great place to learn about the camera :)

I use the default HDV with Cine Mode, the default for NTSC is 60i
I've shot video using the 24p setting but don't really like the difference.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Bob » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:46 pm

There is a lot of confusion over Canon's 25f mode. 25f is a hybrid. -- A progressive frame recorded in an interlaced format. So, you will have two fields for every frame. One field containing the odd numbered lines in the image, the other containing the even. Normally, when you record interlaced, each field is captured separately so there will be a 1/50th second difference between the field captures. The 25f mode captures a single frame from the sensor every 1/25th second and divides it into two interlaced fields. There is no time difference between fields. See this article from Canon for a better explanation: http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/progressive_video.do

Since it is in an interlaced format, you can certainly edit in an 1080i preset. However, in Premiere Pro, 25f can be processed as progressive footage in a 1080p project using the Canon 25f HDV preset. Premiere Pro 2.0 did not ship with the Canon HDV presets, but later versions include them. If you have Premiere Pro 2.0 you can download them from http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3408.

Premiere Elements 7 does not include those presets. However, I know that some here have installed the Premiere Pro 2.0 Canon HDV presets in Elements.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:34 pm

Thanks Bob, you know I had forgotten all about those presets.
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Re: HDV-settings in Premiere Pro/El

Postby momoffduty » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:41 am

I read the threads at hv20 that were posted above. Lots of info & confusing too. Not sure if I should start a new thread:

Have an HV30 & using the HDV standard 60i.
If I have clips that are 30p, how would you combine those in a project with 60i?

Read that you don't want to use the same tape if mixing settings, but someone posted there that to use a clapboard when changing settings. Which would make sense on importing into the correct project settings, but again how would you combine the clips?

The info in threads state that 30p & 60i are both fine for export for standard DVDs. Thought that 30p is more for the web? If using 60i project settings the export for the web would be deinterlaced so that should not be a factor.
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