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New computer

Postby Francesco Carzedda » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:36 am

Ciao,
I am planning the new pc keeping my monitor, keyboard and mouse.

I haven't made up my mind yet about what new software might replace old Videopad+ProShow Gold, but Sony Vegas has the best price.

I would like to ask your help about this configuration:

case Corsair Carbide 300R - $99,79 USD
cpu i7-4770 - $374,69 USD
ASUS B85M-G di Asus motherboard - $91,83 USD
xfx pro core 550w power supply - $77,90 USD
Corsair 8GB 1600MHz CL10 DDR3 (compatible?) - $92,00 USD
Sapphire 11220-00-20G R9 270 NVIDIA Scheda grafica (PCI-e, 2GB, GDDR5, DVI, 1 GPU) - $219,99 USD
ssd Samsung MZ-7PD128 - $145,67 USD
Windows 8.1 - $147,25 USD
hd Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 64MB - $79,17 USD

It costs more than 1.300,00 USD (around 1.000 Euro).

Do you think I can save more?

Thank you in advance

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Re: New computer

Postby TreeTopsRanch » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:19 am

Looks good except for Win 8.1. I think you will be happier with Win 7. Win 8.1 is geared to touch screens but some here are using it for video editing. But I don't think they are using the touch screen to do it.
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Re: New computer

Postby Steve Grisetti » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:19 pm

Fortunately, since the 8.1 upgrade to Windows 8, it's a very nice operating system, IMO. You can set it to skip the "touch screen" Metro desktop completely and go directly to the more standard Desktop look. And I very much like how quick and responsive Windows 8.1 is (especially with a good load of RAM, as you have).

So I sure wouldn't disregard Windows 8.1 outright. In fact, I may upgrade my Windows 7 computer to it.
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Re: New computer

Postby Ron Hunter » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:57 pm

Wow Steve, that is quite the endorsement. I'm using Win'7 Home Premium 64-bit and my system has 16GB of RAM. For someone who isn't using a touch screen, what are the reasons to upgrade from Win'7 to Win'8.1?
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Re: New computer

Postby Ron Hunter » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:06 pm

Sorry for hijacking the thread Francesco! I think your specs look good but I wonder about that power supply. Are you sure its power rating is large enough for your components? Since you are getting top-end components, why not go ahead and get 16GB of RAM? I suspect Win'8 and your video editing program will thank you for it.

I don't see many expansion slots on the motherboard.

I like the 128GB SSD for a system drive and the 1TB for your media drive. And that is a great looking case, lots of nice design touches there.
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Re: New computer

Postby Steve Grisetti » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:52 pm

There's no reason to upgrade from version 7 to 8 at this time, unless there's some feature you're deeply in love with. But I'm just saying not to discount 8 outright because it stumbled a bit out of the gate. Windows 8.1 is a solid operating system with few disadvantages that I can see.
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Re: New computer

Postby Francesco Carzedda » Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:55 am

Thank you, Ron and Steve !

I can think about Windows 7 instead of 8, if it is more friendly (and cheaper, ehm :-) ).
Ok per 16 RAM and maybe a cheaper case (I could my oldie one, it has the only disadvantage of few usb ports and none on the front.

Could you please suggest me a more sutable power supply and - eventually - some cheaper solution ?
I am thinking about Sony Vegas 12 Edit, is it efficient?

Thank you again

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Re: New computer

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:21 am

Vegas Pro Edit does not include DVD Architect. Do you already have a copy of DVD Architect Studio or DVD Architect Pro?

If not, I'd recommend you either buy the full version of DVD Architect Pro or just get Movie Studio Platinum.
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Re: New computer

Postby Francesco Carzedda » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:34 am

Thanks, Steve

Does "Dvd Architect" only edit for and burn dvds?

I rarely make a dvd, but in case it seems to cost "just" USD 26,95 ex vat.

Have you got further suggestions to save on components :conf: ?

Thanks again

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Re: New computer

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:10 am

There are two versions of DVD Architect -- DVD Architect Studio, which is relatively inexpensive, and DVD Architect Pro, which comes with Vegas Pro and has the ability to do professional things like add subtitles, multiple language tracks, etc., to your discs.

But you are right. If you do not make DVDs or BluRay discs, you don't need either DVD Architect.
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Re: New computer

Postby Francesco Carzedda » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:32 am

Thanks, Steve :-)
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Re: New computer

Postby videolady » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:14 pm

I, too, am going to purchase a new system mainly because I have to upgrade Windows - I have XP which as of today has lost support from Microsoft. Late last year, I had problems with my system that were never quite solved but we figured out enough to finish my project. So I think I would rather just get a new system instead of changing the operating system on this one.

I want to go to my computer shop with a guideline of what I want and so I have Steve's book for PS and PE11 that recommends these minimum specs:
Standard DV and HDV video minimum editing spec:
Dual core processor running at least 2.6 ghz per core
2-4 gigabytes of RAM
128 mb video card, ideally ATI or nVidia technology
100 gigabytes of free hard drive (This allows for plenty of room for captured footage and scratch disk space)
An ASIO Audio Stream Input/Output) supported sound card
DVD burner
19” monitor set to at least 1280X1024 display (dual monitors)
IEEE-1394/Firewire/iLink connection

I have PS/PE12 now but did not buy the book this year. Are there any changes to the minimum specs from the 11 version?
Of course, I would like more than the minimum though so it is fast when working in Premier Elements. Do you have any suggestions for upgrading any parts?
Also, I currently only work with standard DV but I would like this machine to last 4-5 yrs. Would a BluRay burner be a good add on?
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Re: New computer

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:55 am

Of course it is all down to budget but I would upgrade your specs to something like this. If out of budget range the options to cut back on I have marked with an asterisk:-

Win 7 Pro 64 bit
Core i7 4770
8GB RAM
1GB nVidia card
256MB SSD for opsys and programs* (substitute with a normal HDD)
1TB HDD for data and video work
BD burner (which can also burn DVDs by the way)
Dual monitors but I would look at 1920 x 1080 (*use single monitor or reduce resolution)

You would need to check on the motherboard for a firewire port but in any event, if you need to buy one, a firewire card isn't expensive (<US25(?). Also the motherboard standard audio option may meet your needs without having to buy a sound card.
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Re: New computer

Postby BuddyB » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:20 pm

You're right TwoSheds. I went to Radio Shack and the Firewire was $35.00. I bought a dandy one on Amazon for 13.00 plus change including shipping. Unfortunately these stores have a hard time competing with online.
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