Oval shape only, not with transparent background?

[Peru]

Premiere Elements 9

I have a PSD file (or it can be a PNG or Tiff) on which I made an oval selection, selected the inverse, and deleted. This left me with an oval photo on a transparent background.

I want to import the photo into PPro CS5.5 and apply a Vitascene vignette effect. The problem is that the effect is applied to the rectangular shape (the photo plus the transparency), not just the oval shape.

Is there a way to have a file without the rectangular transparency and have just the oval photo?

[Bob]

Is there a way to have a file without the rectangular transparency and have just the oval photo?

No.

All image formats use a rectangular field of pixels. Transparent areas do not remove pixels.

[RJ Johnston]

Is there an equivalent of Premiere Element's Track Matte Key effect in Premiere Pro?

In Premiere Elements, you can put the graphic in parallel on video track 2 and track 3, drop the Adorage effect on track 2, then drop the track matte key effect on track 2, and select Video 3 as the matte. That will make it look like the Adorage effect is applied to just the non-transparent area, while the background on video 1 is showing through the transparent area.

[Peru]

Is there an equivalent of Premiere Element's Track Matte Key effect in Premiere Pro?

In Premiere Elements, you can put the graphic in parallel on video track 2 and track 3, drop the Adorage effect on track 2, then drop the track matte key effect on track 2, and select Video 3 as the matte. That will make it look like the Adorage effect is applied to just the non-transparent area, while the background on video 1 is showing through the transparent area.

I'll give it a try.
Thanks.

[Peru]

I'll give it a try.
Thanks.

Well, I tried track matte and garbage mattes and all of the other mattes and was not successful.
I even tried putting it in a separate sequence, just in case there was a mismatch (PPro doesn't like mattes with mixed media).

Thanks RJ and Bob for your replies.

I decided on a different effect which seemed to yield a more pleasing result.

[momoffduty]

Instead of using Vitascene for your vignette, try the ramp effect on a solid and then track matte key. After applying the ramp (black outside & white inside) as a radial, adjust the width scale on the solid to give it an oval. Lastly the track matte key set to luma.

[Peru]

I'll try that when I get the chance.
Thanks, Mom.

[momoffduty]

This blog tells you how to create a vignette 3 different ways:
http://lifecaveats.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... miere-pro/

This video tut uses the Circle effect:
http://library.creativecow.net/devis_an ... chniques/1

I saw a video tut a long time ago on using the Ramp effect and I can't find it. I thought it was in the Wiki tuts.

[Chuck Engels]

There are two Ramp Effect tutorials
http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ramp_Effect

This might be helpful also
http://www.videocopilot.net/forum/viewt ... 13&t=30545

[RJ Johnston]

I downloaded the light version of VitaScene Demo, and have had a chance to try it out for a while. I've been working with the PiP template.

I believe you should be able to create the effect right in Vitascene. You can apply all kinds of effects to just the non-transparent parts, such as glows. You have to click on the "edit" button, then click on "customize effect," then on the "filter" tab you can select a filter and adjust the controls.

The trouble I see with VitaScene is I can't tell what the effect is going to look like until I save and go back to host application (Premiere Elements).

[RJ Johnston]

Another problem with Vitascene is when you are in the VitaScene interface, transparency seems to get lost. Any border effect you see is applied to the whole square image, but back in Premiere Elements, the border is applied to just the non-transparent shape.

[Peru]

I believe you should be able to create the effect right in Vitascene. You can apply all kinds of effects to just the non-transparent parts, such as glows. You have to click on the "edit" button, then click on "customize effect," then on the "filter" tab you can select a filter and adjust the controls.

Some effects have more options that others. The vignette effect has fewer than most others.

The trouble I see with VitaScene is I can't tell what the effect is going to look like until I save and go back to host application (Premiere Elements).

I can see the changes, but the video is somewhat distorted. I think it's a PAR thing.

Mom & Chuck-
Thanks for the tutorial links.

[RJ Johnston]

Peru,

In Sony Vegas I can see what is happening in VitaScene UI.

Anyway, I "Start from Scratch" and then pick the PiP template. After that I adjust the settings on the Filter tab with "Aura" selected. Some of the other effects besides "Aura" give interesting results.

Oval Vignette.jpg