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Archive format15 years ago I converted almost all of my 8mm video footage to .avi format based on best practices at the time. Now the .avi footage seems like it needs to be converted before it becomes extinct. What is the best strategy for long term storage and archiving?
Re: Archive formatFor format AVI is one of the most well-known audio-video formats. Still the best quality video format in many situations, AVI video format is holding its own compared to more modern video file formats. It is still widely supported and deserves consideration from any serious audio-video user or creator. If you are not convinced you could always use Handbrake and convert.
If you have the money, Cloud storage with Mircosoft of Google or someone reputable in original format. if not cloud then 1. Solid state storage 2. Hard Drive storage Sidd "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." ..... Ferris Bueller
Re: Archive formatThanks! Well that saves me a ton of work. I'm transferring the AVI files from about 100 DVD's to my HD now to organize and edit. Then I'll be archiving on a portable SSD.
For my 8mm video that has NOT yet been digitized, should I use AVI? From what you said (and the fact that everything else was converted to AVI) that would be my inclination.
Re: Archive formatI need to note that AVI is just an envelope file. It can be made up of any of thousands of codecs, so it's impossible to talk about AVIs in general terms. There's a world of difference between a DV-AVI, an uncompressed AVI, a Divx-AVI and, say, a Cinepak-AVI.
I wouldn't worry too much about converting your existing AVIs. If you've been archiving your video as AVIs, they're likely DV-AVIs, so leave them as is. But you might consider saving your future videos as MP4s, which give a better picture at a smaller file size. MP4s are also progressive scan, which means that the frames are cleaner looking when viewed on computers and current TVs. DV-AVIs used an interlace scan to create their video frames (It was state of the art at the time), which don't look quite as clean when viewed on most of today's devices. HP Envy with 2.9/4.4 ghz i7-10700 and 16 gig of RAM running Windows 11 Pro
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Things may have chganged, or this might be a false memory, but I vaguely recollect reading a couple or more years ago that SSD storage can degrade over time if the SSD is not regularly used. AMD Ryzen 3900x 12C/24T, ASUS x570 mobo, Arctic Liquid Freezer ll 280, Win11 64 bit, 64GB RAM, Radeon RX 570 graphics, Samsung 500GB NVMe 980 PRO (C:), Samsung 970 Evo SSD (D:), Dell U2717D Monitor, Synology DS412+ 8TB NAS, Adobe CS6.
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I remember reading that as well, although the time frame for that was quite a long time. I would not trust a portable SSD for a single archive. Multiple on site and off site archives is my strategy.
Re: Archive formatDid some research and this is what I found:
https://www.compuram.de/blog/en/the-lif ... take-care/ How long does an SSD last?
To calculate the life span: The life span of a Samsung 850 PRO with 1TB then results in: (This isn’t a guarantee, but a good forecast.) Sidd "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." ..... Ferris Bueller
Re: Archive formatThere was some comment about their longevity when powered down but it seems overly hyped. It seems hard drives are better (although not perfect) at long term storage.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the ... -retention I have been keeping track of my SSD and my current average rate of use is about 36GB written per day - or about 13TB per year. The warranty on the drive is 300TB written - which I'm due to pass some time in 2041... Intel Core i7 8700 - 32GB DDR4 - 500GB Evo 970 SSD - 3+2 TB HDD - GTX 1080- MSI Z370 Pro - Win10 64 bit - Cannon HV30 (PAL) - Sony A6000 - GoPro 3 Black
Re: Archive formatThanks! As usual I'm glad I checked in here before getting too far along. Here's what I plan at this point: 1) keep the DVD's (DV-AVI digital) and 8mm tapes (analog) as primary sources of my old home movies, 2) after transferring the DV-AVI files to my PC's HDD, copy them them to a portable SSD (back-up to HDD), 3) convert my few remaining 8mm tapes to MP4 for archiving.
That seems like adequate multi sources for my needs. Reading through the responses and links has given me a level of clarity and confidence I didn't have before.
Re: Archive formatKinda cool that we're thinking hundreds of years, when it comes to archiving our videos. Particularly when photography itself is really only about 200 years old.
When I was a young man, I had my film developed at Buckeye Mart. The photos they processed then are now fading away to nothingness. I may outlive them! So one of my side projects has been copying them to electronic versions and enhancing them before they're gone completely! HP Envy with 2.9/4.4 ghz i7-10700 and 16 gig of RAM running Windows 11 Pro
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You might consider picking up an extra machine that plays 8mm tapes so you have a way to play back the video in case one breaks. On a side note I imagine that all the conservation and keeping of video and pictures I have will be just tossed out as garbage in future generations. Their thinking is...... Who are these people and what is all this stuff.... I don't recognize anyone. Let's just toss it all so we have room for our new teleporter machine..... lol Sidd "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." ..... Ferris Bueller
Re: Archive formatI have a good 8mm deck that I'm keeping. I often think that I'm the only one that will ever look at most of this footage. But it's there...
Re: Archive format"You might consider picking up an extra machine that plays 8mm tapes"
Something I hadn't thought about...
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Sorry to disagree but I really do believe that format conversion has to be the way to go as long as the 'format conversion' technology' is available. For example, no good having lots of DVD video media if in ten/fifteen years there are no DVD video players. Think of VHS standard video tapes - where are the VHS players now? Not in the shops but Ebay if you are lucky. AMD Ryzen 3900x 12C/24T, ASUS x570 mobo, Arctic Liquid Freezer ll 280, Win11 64 bit, 64GB RAM, Radeon RX 570 graphics, Samsung 500GB NVMe 980 PRO (C:), Samsung 970 Evo SSD (D:), Dell U2717D Monitor, Synology DS412+ 8TB NAS, Adobe CS6.
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Unfortunately, I'm imagining the same scenario.
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