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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:43 pm

Chuck just posted something about DeNoise from Topaz Labs, so I downloaded the trial and tried it out on the globe. This is my very first try with the filter. Besides using DeNoise, I used the Photo Filter adjustment layer using the Deep Blue preset, and the Brightness and Contrast adjustment layer, and Smart Sharpen filter.

Used Topaz DeNoise.jpg


You really have to try it out for yourself so you can zoom way in and pan around in Photoshop.

After reading the PDF tutorial, I'm still confused, though, about what constitutes a good noise sample. For example, in Neat Image you need to select noise from a plain background and a large enough area in order to have a good sample, but in DeNoise it seems you don't have to worry about that so much. Someone, like me, that has used some other noise filter products will be confused in the beginning of the tutorial. I guess I'll have to read it again.

I thought this was the best of the noise cleaners I've tried and would consider buying. You can spend a lot more time working on an image with this filter than with Neat Image or Ninja. There are also handy presets if you are in a hurry.
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Bob » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:45 pm

I was impressed enough with DeNoise to buy it myself. That was several years ago and I'm still happy with it.
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Bob » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:50 pm

FYI,

Noise Ninja is now a legacy product. Noise Ninja has been suceeded by Photo Ninja, a raw conversion processor.
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:53 pm

Bob, you posted just at the right time. I was just about to plunk down some money on DeNoise5, but now I will wait until I try Photo Ninja, which includes Noise Ninja 3.
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:33 am

Instead of trying to get rid of the noise, I left it in and then used Topaz Labs Simplify plug-in to create a wild looking image of my globe. That was a lot more fun than trying to get rid of the noise with Denoise.

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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Bob » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:58 am

Much more fun! :TU:
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Gerlinde » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:32 am

I received this Webinar invitation on DeNoiser from Topaz Lab and thought I post it for anyone who might be interested. The Webinars are free.
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:37 am

Thank you, Gerlinde. I sure hope the Webinars will be recordered for later viewing. Some of the times of the Webinars are not going to work for me.

Since getting DeNoise, I've gotten DeJpeg, Simplify, Detail, Remask, and Adjust when there was a 30% discount. I must like these products or have a strong desire to burn a hole in my pocket (which I almost did yesterday with a rechargeable battery and coins in my pocket. Yeow!).
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Gerlinde » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:47 am

Yes they do post past webinars. Here you go Robert: http://www.topazlabs.com/webinars/ . You have to scroll down to see all the archived clips. There are a lot.

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I guess it is easy to get suckered in, everything looks so pretty after using their plugins. :-D
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:38 pm

Good thing I watched the webinar on InFocus, otherwise I would not have seen how to correctly use the InFocus plug-in to automatically bring an image back into focus.

There is a special on the Topaz photoFXLab program. Enter code PFXL during checkout and get $30 off. That makes it $49.99 instead of $79.99. The web page doesn't say how long that's good for. http://www.topazlabs.com/photofxlab/ One really nice feature is the extensive library of tones, requiring internet access, you can apply using "InstaTone."
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:05 am

Besides using Topaz Denoise5, I used InFocus and Clean3. The InFocus and Clean3 layers were blended with 44% Multiply in Photoshop.

Here is the before and after:

100_4424 topaz.jpg
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Chuck Engels » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:29 am

Wow, those did a really nice job RJ :TU:
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby Dave McElderry » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:38 am

That's impressive RJ!
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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby stanatou » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:00 am

I've been scanning photos that my parents have collected over the years. Would these tools help with rescue and restoration of these or are they mostly for fixing today's digital photos?

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Re: Alternative to Neat Image

Postby RJ Johnston » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:53 pm

The Topaz plug-ins can easily improve just about any photo. I've tried them on 35mm slides from the 50's, old color photographs, faded Poloroid photos, digital camera photos. The one plug-in that can do alot is the Adjust 5 plug-in. What would take a long time to do with what's inherint in Photoshop can be done very quickly with the addition of Topaz plug-ins.
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