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When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:46 pm

When can we say it is no longer smart to make videos for the 4:3 screen ratio?

I am not going to make 4:3 anymore, if I switch to 16:9. The beautiful thing about 16:9 is obviously that today's video file types fill up the whole screen.
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Bobby » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:00 pm

I switched years ago. Most DVD players will show letterbox 16:9 on a 4:3 screen if needed.

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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Paul LS » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:00 pm

I am not sure what it is like in the US but in the UK you have not been able to buy 4:3 TVs for several years. I suppose for the last 3 or 4 years I have only produced widescreen videos.
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:09 pm

My audience is in the throes of change, though often very slow change. Most of them have 4:3 screens in their school computer labs. But otherwise, everything IS changing to 16:9--in homes and when schools have the money to upgrade or add new machines. This is a pretty serious issue, and it seems like I should make the switch to 16:9. All I need is for someone to say, "Switch, you idiot!"

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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:12 am

Matthew Max wrote: All I need is for someone to say, "Switch, you idiot!"

Happy to oblige. :-D

Seriously though, as Bobby says, most DVD players will play the widescreen image OK; just that it will be letterboxed with black stripes top and bottom.
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:54 am

There's so much talk about DVD players on this site. I don't have to deal with DVDs. I only make video for online viewing in embedded players or individuals' own players.

All the talk about DVD players throws me off. That must mean I am missing a point. I make a LOT of videos for my customers. They never buy them. They subscribe for a nominal annual fee. I can change the videos without interrupting delivery, because I also deliver the updated videos to overwrite the ones that schools download. Individuals view strictly online.
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:37 am

I'm not sure if you represent the typical videomaker, Max. Do you really make HUNDREDS of videos? Can we check out a sampling? We'd love to see your work!

I'm lucky if I get in one video production a month.

Not that there's anything wrong with being so prolific! The work we all share on this site sure helps to inspire me!
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:44 am

That's a funny question to me, Steve. Yes, I make hundreds. I thought everyone did. This year I'll have around 500 or 600, just depending on whether I go down a particular path, but I'll easily have 500. But I would not call them productions the way you would.

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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:32 am

Wow! Two videos a day! That's quite an output! Eating and brushing my teeth are about the only things I do that often!

But whatever brought you here, we're glad you're here, Max.

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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:35 am

Update:
Max, I just have to say I've checked out a couple of the videos on your site, and these are really terrific -- both as language lessons and as pure entertainment.

I encourage everyone to check these out. They really are very well done!
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:51 am

Shucks, thanks, Steve.

No way do I make two a day. I make 100+ every 365 days. This year I might decide to make 200+, but half of those would just be screen capture. Over the past 3 years I have made a total of 375 video lessons.

What brought me to this site? Desperation. I found myself swimming in unfamiliar variables. I don't know what the heck I'm doing when I confront variables that involve codecs and such. I'm feelin' the love now, and it's so good.
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby momoffduty » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:18 am

Steve Grisetti wrote:Update:
Max, I just have to say I've checked out a couple of the videos on your site, and these are really terrific -- both as language lessons and as pure entertainment.

I encourage everyone to check these out. They really are very well done!


I agree, very well done. Enjoyed the Blue Grass too.
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:57 am

Gracias, Cheryl. The Minton family played 10 songs for me in their living room. I included parts of each song. Because I make a lot of series, and I don't have an editor telling me what I cannot include, like I did when I wrote for a city paper, I can "tell the story" as it deserves.

I keep wondering why I like that music so much. Maybe because it's homegrown in style? I do wish I had done the series in a 16:9 format, but you folks weren't there to keep me on the straight and narrow. From here on out--no more 4:3.

Hey, where could I see some of your work?
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Matthew Max » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:44 pm

What have I been losing visually by using the 4::3 ratio with a lot of my 16:9 footage?
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Re: When to lay the 4:3 aspect ratio to rest?

Postby Bob » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:29 pm

That depends to some extent on how you went from 16:9 to 4:3. Could you walk us through your workflow?
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