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New Desktop Build

Postby Gerlinde » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:14 pm

My husband gave me a budget to upgrade our computer hardware. :exc:

I have been reading and educating myself on how to build a computer and think I should be able to do it. Here is what I have put together so far:

Option 1:
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Ivy Bridge


Option 2:
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Sandy Bridge E

How I understand it, Option 2 would be better for video editing, but Option 1 has newer technology.

Any thoughts or suggestions on my picks?
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B) Sony Vaio i7-3632QM,12gb DDR3-1333MHz, GeForce® GT 640M LE (2GB), 750GB (7200rpm), Win10 Pro64-bit
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Peru » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:51 pm

I think 6 cores would be better than a quad core.

Are you using Pre Pro or Pre El?
What versions? If Pre Pro CS 5 or higher, you may want to look into the 2GB version.

And don't forget a powerful enough power supply.
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Uncle Ben » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:27 pm

Peru may be right, I am no expert. But when I was shopping for a new PC, I did quite a bit of research on Ivy vs Sandy, and opted for the quad core Ivy. With your SSD drive, 32GB of memory, that video card and 2GB of video RAM... you'll have fun! Notwithstanding, I believe that both systems will handle video editing with ease. If you haven't done so already, your best bet would be to Google Ivy vs Sandy and read some of what the 'experts' have to say. Good luck!
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Gerlinde » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:41 pm

Peru, I have a 850W PSU (gold plus) on my shopping list. I'm using PRE, Magix MEP, Avid Studio and Photoshop CS5. But I might upgrade to Premiere Pro in the future.
If I go with the 6 core version, I have to make some sacrifices on something, like going with the 1gb card. :-k

Uncle Ben, thanks for your :tup: . I have been reading all I could find on the topic. It is good to know, that you are happy with your system. I kind of think option 2 might be overkill.
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B) Sony Vaio i7-3632QM,12gb DDR3-1333MHz, GeForce® GT 640M LE (2GB), 750GB (7200rpm), Win10 Pro64-bit
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Bob » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:53 pm

Option 1 should be fine. Premiere Pro can take advantage of the extra cores in option 2, but I think you'll get more bang for the buck by getting a better graphics card so Premiere Pro can use cuda acceleration. If you are serious about going to Premiere Pro, consider changing the GTX 550 to a GTX 570 which has over double the graphic cores and is in Premiere Pro's supported list. Just an fyi, if you are going to install 32GB of ram, you will need the Windows Professional edition -- the Home edition is limited to 16GB.
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Gerlinde » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:55 pm

Thank you Bob. Good point with the video card. The GTX-570 was my original choice, but then I lost sight of the cuda cores and looked only at the ram size and cost. Good thing I have not ordered anything yet.
I was planing on getting Windows Pro, I'm only not sure if I should go with 7 or 8.
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B) Sony Vaio i7-3632QM,12gb DDR3-1333MHz, GeForce® GT 640M LE (2GB), 750GB (7200rpm), Win10 Pro64-bit
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:27 am

My twopennyworth. I use Win 7Pro 64 bit. I haven't seen anything convincing as yet to make me want to upgrade to Win 8. But then I am not starting from a "new machine" position (in which case my thinking might be different). :-D
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Uncle Ben » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:08 am

gpecht wrote:Uncle Ben, thanks for your :tup: . I have been reading all I could find on the topic. It is good to know, that you are happy with your system. I kind of think option 2 might be overkill.


Fair enough ... For what it's worth, this is the article that convinced me, which you may have already seen: http://mashable.com/2012/04/23/intel-ivy-bridge-advantages/#60157Why-Ivy-Bridge. I knew I had kept the reference but couldn't locate it yesterday when I posted my comment. Skaugen claims that "visual activities like high-definition gameplay and transcoding HD video would see a performance boost of up to 100%" over Sandy Bridge; but I have also seen other tests that contracdict that, like the ones done by the folks at vr-zone that show a 30% gain in video transcoding in Sandy Bridge's favour.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bridge-vs-sandy-bridge--4.8ghz-quad-core-cpu-showdown/15637.html

Just thought I'd pass it on. Good luck with your purchase!
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Dave McElderry » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:04 am

It's cool to see the choice of an SSD drive for your OS/programs drive. When I bought my Dell, SSD drives were still way too expensive and they didn't give me the option to purchase a smaller C: drive. I could have used Acronis to transfer the drive image to a smaller drive and purchased my data drives separately, but I got lazy. I hope that works out well for you and I'd love for you to someday give us feedback on your experience with it. FWIW, in my business I've seen a disproportionate number of failures of Seagate mechanical drives, and could also not recommend Hitachi. However, I think highly of Western Digital. If you don't have a compelling reason to choose the Seagates you might reconsider that brand choice.
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby momoffduty » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:27 am

My new build is in the works now (see signature). I am going with Windows 7 Prof too. I did consider the GTX 570, but tried to shave some $ here and there so went with the GTX 550 Ti. It is not on the supported list, but you can add that card to the list in the programs. I did chat up a rep at Adobe and he said that I should have "fantastic" use of the cores going with the GTX 550 Ti. I have to thank Jack for his input when I was working with my tech guy on the parts. My tech guy also said the ssd is the way to go now.
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Gerlinde » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:22 pm

Thank you all for your replies, I really appreciate all the input. :tx:

As to Windows 7 versus 8: as I first looked at a computer with Windows 8 my reaction was, what? :-8 this is awful. But once I got over the colors and looked at it more in depth, I found it quite interesting.
Since I'm starting with a new system, I'm thinking I should go with 8, unless there are some compelling issues not to. I'm even considering to upgrade my current laptop to Win 8 pro, it's only $40 to upgrade and you get the Media Pack for free.

Uncle Ben - more stuff to read image201 :lol:
My knowledge comes mostly from the VideoGuys and articles at the Tom's Hardware site.

What it comes down to for me, is the question, which of the 2 sockets - LGA 1155 or LGA 2011, has the better future? Because, even before I finish buying all the parts, everything is going to be yesterday's technology. :conf:

Dave, all my external drives are Seagates and I have only good experiences with them, no problems at all. I even dropped one once :pull: and it is still working flawlessly. :-

Mom, I was hoping to hear from you. I saw your new signature :-D and was hoping you would let me know, how your new machine is working for you.

As to the video card, I was thinking the same:
I did consider the GTX 570, but tried to shave some $ here and there

But, I also overlooked the fact that the GTX 550 has only 192 cuda cores and according to Adobe you should have at least 384. I can't find the article at the moment :roll:
So you have someone build it for you, I will try to do it myself. I hope I don't mess it up :shock:
Where is Jack and also Chris? I might need some help.

I'm glad Bob is still here. :SH:

I will keep you all posted how it works out.
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Peru » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:34 pm

gpecht wrote:Because, even before I finish buying all the parts, everything is going to be yesterday's technology.


It always seems to work out that way. ;)
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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby Uncle Ben » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:46 pm

gpecht wrote: Dave, all my external drives are Seagates and I have only good experiences with them, no problems at all. I even dropped one once :pull: and it is still working flawlessly. :-


Yes, I think you're right. We have two Seagate external back up drives that we've been using once a month for Casper imaging. They have worked flawlessly, going on three years now. But I cannot say the same thing about internal drives. Don't ask me why ... but you can check the ratings for yourself on Amazon. While the Baracuda drives do get fairly good ratings, the WD drives do much better. More stuff for you to read! :hyst:
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Re: New Desktop Build

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Re: New Desktop Build

Postby momoffduty » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:42 pm

gpecht wrote:
Mom, I was hoping to hear from you. I saw your new signature :-D and was hoping you would let me know, how your new machine is working for you.

As to the video card, I was thinking the same:
I did consider the GTX 570, but tried to shave some $ here and there

But, I also overlooked the fact that the GTX 550 has only 192 cuda cores and according to Adobe you should have at least 384. I can't find the article at the moment :roll:
So you have someone build it for you, I will try to do it myself. I hope I don't mess it up :shock:
Where is Jack and also Chris? I might need some help.



We are waiting on 2 boxes that are shipping out of NJ. So looking at later in the week or next when he has it built. I ordered the upgrade from Adobe via a disc and they won't arrive for another 7 to 10 days. I am hoping I made the right decision on the GTX 550 Ti.

We have been with the same tech guy for many years. He retrofitted my current computer several years ago. That was sorta a new build using some existing parts. I did check on off the shelf prices and for what I am getting it is actually cheaper and more bang for the buck. Service comes with the build too.

I'll let you know how it handles once I get it all changed over and the programs installed. I've been limping along for quite awhile now and hopefully the new monster will cut thru High Def.
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