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LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

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LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Kent Frost » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:36 pm

So I've got a client who handed me 18 VHS tapes - all recorded in EP to achieve upwards of 6 hours per tape - to transfer over to digital for her. This is obviously a ton of footage, and probably not very feasible to go to regular DVD. So the client and I have agreed that opting for Blu-Ray discs to pack tons of SD footage on each disc would be the way to go. I've never done this, though. I see that SD Blu-Ray is possible, but I have some questions about the pre-burn video format. Should I stick with MPEG2 as I would for DVD? Or opt for AVC? I have all the interlaced settings as they should be, the same as if I were going to DVD, and I'm able to stuff upwards of 8.5 hours on a disc without a lot of recompression, but the resulting MPEG2 files I'm getting from the VHS-to-PC transfers weigh in at around 25GB per 6-hour file. Just wondering if I'm headed in the right direction to achieve this end result of tons and tons of VHS footage on a Blu-Ray disc.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Steve Grisetti » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:45 pm

One problem is that this disc may not play on a DVD player, Kent. I could be wrong, but I think that even if the video is in VOB format, a DVD player won't be able to read the BluRay disc. But let's wait for someone else to confirm this.

That said, you should be able to get 6 hours of full-quality 720x480 MPEG2 on a 25 gig disc at fullest quality. Maybe a little more -- but you may want to experiment before you commit too much into the project. Just as a 4.7 gig DVD can't literally hold 4.7 gigs of data, a 25 gig disc may not actually be able to hold 25 gigs of data, if that makes sense.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Kent Frost » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:52 pm

Not a problem on the player. She has a Blu-Ray player, which is when I brought this option up to her. She likes the idea of 10 or fewer BD's over the prospect of 40+ DVD's.
I'm using Sony DVD Architect 6.0 for this project, and I've inserted the footage there. Definitely seems to be working when I go to render an output folder (as opposed to wasting BR discs on tests). It gauges how much space is left and whatnot. More than anything I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried making an SD Blu Ray disc that may be able to give me some pointers.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Peru » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:30 pm

Steve Grisetti wrote: you may want to experiment before you commit too much into the project.


...and with a rewriteable.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby sidd finch » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:06 pm

It is worth noting that there are a whole bunch of variables to consider.

!. Brand of BluRay discs some play some don't.
2. Do not use re-writable discs they are prone to issues
3. What machines will play what discs. They really vary from brand to brand.
4. What disc types do the BluRay players support.

I would suggest putting them on a hard drive. SSD if it is within the budget. Especially if she wants to have them edited down the road. If something happens to the blur ray all the footage is lost.

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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Kent Frost » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:27 pm

Yeah I don't use RW anything. Never worked for me ever since CD-RWs. No idea what brand of machine she has, and it's worth noting that she wants copies of various tapes for various relatives, so it'll likely be a range of different brands.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:54 pm

I am confident that Peru was meaning to use a re-writable as a test medium, not for final delivery and, in that regard, I agree with him.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Peru » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:20 am

Yes, that's what I meant.
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Re: LOTS of VHS to Blu Ray

Postby Kent Frost » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:08 pm

I had figured that's what he meant. I just don't have any RW discs because I don't trust them. lol

Anyway what I ended up doing was just outputting to an image file from Sony DVD Architect 6, and then burning the image file to disc using Roxio NXT2. I ran to Walmart and bought a cheap $50 Blu-Ray player to test it on (since I trusted none of the BR playing software I found) and tested the discs on it. It works. I had to lower the playback resolution of the BRD player from 1080p down to 480p in its settings menu, but it works as intended. I'll be sure to pass that information on to the customer when she goes to play her discs. In fact, I'm a bit out of touch when it comes to features on DVD/BRD players these days. Are there models out there which auto-detect resolutions on the discs and adjust accordingly? Or are most of them set up to be changed manually like the one I bought?
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