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Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby BuddyB » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:42 am

I have much to learn, and then will never learn it all anyway..But watching the tube on my Smart TV. It's a 16X9 and fine. The along comes a commercial or promo and there's heavy black on the top and bottom with the pic stretched all the way landscape. Was this shot in a special format? :eek:
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Re: Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby Steve Grisetti » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:34 am

No. It's just broadcast television, still trying to figure things.

Quite often, if I'm watching an old 4:3 TV show, a widescreen commercial will come on and the right and left sides of the commercial will be so cut off that you can't make sense of any text that appears on-screen.

Some TV stations, in order to fit a 16:9 commercial in the midst of a 4:3 show, will shrink the video down so that the commercial plays letterboxed, with black above and below it.

And sometimes a 16:9 commercial or even a TV show will be letterboxed down to fit in a 4:3 screen but broadcast as 16:9. When that happens, it can appear stretched out of shape or -- and this really drives me crazy -- within a smaller 16:9 window with black completely around it.

I guess we're still in a transitional period between 4:3 and 16:9. Even if you've got your TV set to "Set to Program", you're going to see oddness.

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Re: Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby Dave McElderry » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:23 am

Steve Grisetti wrote:Quite often, if I'm watching an old 4:3 TV show, a widescreen commercial will come on and the right and left sides of the commercial will be so cut off that you can't make sense of any text that appears on-screen.

Hate that. There's a Toledo station that does this. They still do their morning newscasts in SD 4:3, but the commercials are often 16:9, and it's not unusual for the business address or phone number to be cut off. If I was the advertiser I'd want reimbursed for any money I'd paid for those spots.
Some TV stations, in order to fit a 16:9 commercial in the midst of a 4:3 show, will shrink the video down so that the commercial plays letterboxed, with black above and below it.

The lesser of the evils, I guess. Before our local stations went HD a year and a half ago that's how they would show 16:9 commercials during local newscasts.
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Re: Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby BuddyB » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:20 am

I get the picture better now, thanks. Most people I speak to at Comcast have no clue. They also have no idea that setting Aspect Radio to Automatic does not guarantee the right AR each time and that you have to take the Tv remote and manually make the change. At least I do with my Philips Smart Tv that I love. :)
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Re: Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby BuddyB » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:58 am

One last thought on the subject. I understand the Letterbox. What about those few that have very large margins on the top and bottom. It's more than the standard Letterbox effect. You can have two spots back-to-back, one Letterbox, then the next may have the deep margins.
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Re: Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby Steve Grisetti » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:00 am

That's when the TV station letterboxes a 16:9 and then shows it in a 4:3 output that's already been letterboxed. It's double letterboxing!
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Re: Curious about Aspect Ratio

Postby BuddyB » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:06 am

Holy mackrel Andy..that's El Nutso. I'm glad we have so much consistency in the industry. :)
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