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Postby hpharley90 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:37 pm

I'm looking at this computer to buy with this operating system.Operating System Windows 7 Professional SP1, 64-bit with XP Mode Installed, English
If I elect to use the XP mode will it be able to use more RAM than my current XP operating system.(3.62GB)
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Ron » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:00 pm

I wasn't impressed with XP mode. It's not worth it, if that's your motivation.Windows 7 can handle most "XP mode" issues (compatibility mode among other things). And the 64 bit version of Windows can access more ram.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby hpharley90 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:40 pm

Ron wrote:I wasn't impressed with XP mode. It's not worth it, if that's your motivation


No I will be using Windows 7.64 bit if I decide to purchase.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Peru » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:02 pm

I had to use Windows Virtual XP Mode for my printer, as the Windows 7 driver did not work properly for printing on DVDs.

Will you be using Premiere Elements or Premiere Pro? I would think that machine would work fine for Elements, but not too well for Pro CS6.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby hpharley90 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:47 pm

Peru wrote:Will you be using Premiere Elements or Premiere Pro?

Right now Elements 10.
But I plan on buying the upgrade to Pro CS6 so as I can get Encore.
Peru wrote: I would think that machine would work fine for Elements, but not too well for Pro CS6.


How come?
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Bob » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:30 am

With that video card, you will only be able to use software rendering. For GPU acceleration on Windows, you'll need an NVIDIA graphics card. See the Premiere Pro CS6 System Requirements.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Peru » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:32 am

hpharley90 wrote:But I plan on buying the upgrade to Pro CS6 so as I can get Encore.
Peru wrote: I would think that machine would work fine for Elements, but not too well for Pro CS6.


How come?


1) Radeon graphics does not support CUDA.
2) Not enough Ram.
3) How many hard drives?
See this:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/662972
Click on the image in the first post.

4) See this:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4593192#4593192
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Bob » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:20 pm

I would recommend a minimum of two internal drives. If the system comes with only one drive, make sure it has expansion capabiity to add addtional internal drives. Stay away from "green" drives, you need full speed 7200 rpm or higher preferably Sata III. I have three internal drives. The next time I build a computer I will use an SSD for the sytem drive.

CUDA GPU acceleration in Premiere Pro makes a huge difference. I have a GTX 470. Get the best card you can afford.

The Adobe requirements I linked to say "4GB of RAM (8GB recommended)". Personally, I would consider 8GB the minimum. As far as the OS goes, 8GB seems to be the sweet spot. Premiere Pro can benefit from more. But, realistically, it's going to depend on what you are going to be doing. I have 8GB in my current system and find it entirely adequate for what I do in Premiere Pro CS6. With my system (i7 quad core, gtx 470, 3 drives) editing response is snappy. Where I do see a limitation is in After Effects where I could definitely use more RAM. For that reason, I am considering adding an additional 8GB for a total of 16GB. I have Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and my motherboard will support 32GB. But, for what I do, the cost to benefit ratio is not compelling. Your mileage may vary, as they say.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby hpharley90 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:36 pm

Peru wrote:1) Radeon graphics does not support CUDA.
2) Not enough Ram.
3) How many hard drives?


I figured the video card would be an issue. Easily upgradeable.

For$ 175.00 dollars more I can upgrade to 16GB. Which I planned on doing. edit:I was wrong on this. 12GB FOR $100.00



I'm planning on taking 2 of my SATA drives from my present computer and using them with the one that comes with with computer.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby hpharley90 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:47 pm

This is my present setup as far as HDD. The FreeAgent is an USB external.

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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Chuck Engels » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:39 pm

Sounds like you've got a good handle on it Richard.
That is a great price for the computer but be sure it has the capability of adding two more drives and how much RAM. Some of the lower priced Dells have very limited expansion capability.
1. Thinkpad W530 Laptop, Core i7-3820QM Processor 8M Cache 3.70 GHz, 16 GB DDR3, NVIDIA Quadro K1000M 2GB Memory.

2. Cybertron PC - Liquid Cooled AMD FX6300, 6 cores, 3.50ghz - 32GB DDR3 - MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 4G, 4GB Video Ram, 1024 Cuda Cores.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Peru » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Also, what size is the power supply?
It needs to be able to handle the video card and hard drives.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby hpharley90 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:12 pm

Peru wrote:Also, what size is the power supply?
It needs to be able to handle the video card and hard drives.


I just was looking at manual and that info was not in owners manual that I could find.
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Re: maybe a new Dell?

Postby Chuck Engels » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:45 pm

750w would probably be a minimum for that setup ;)
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