Rendering issue

[ssandheinrich]

I have some old tapes from 1986 - 2005 that I am able to capture to an AVI format and play on my computer, however, when I render to DV NTSC format or any that I have tried, it hangs. I removed any formatting so we are just working with basic footage. I have tried a short 2 minute event but it does the same thing. My HQ events work without a problem.

[John 'twosheds' McDonald]

Firstly welcome to Muvipix ssandheinrich.

Can you provide a little more information about the problem? How did you capture the tapes to .avi format? What did you use to render the files (Vegas?)?

[ssandheinrich]

Hello to you as well! Glad to be hear. Ok..so I connected the video camera to my computer using the 1394 cable and the audio cable as well to my sound card. I used the capture video option within Sony Vegas Pro 13 (I believe it is version 6 but whatever came with Vegas 13). It captures just fine, splitting it into sections as I have set. The AVI files play just fine using Windows Media Player and they play fine as part of the project. I render it using Vegas 13 and have tried several formats. I can submit a short clip if it will help troubleshooting. Perhaps if you get the same problem, it is the way I captured it. Let me know if this is an option.

[Steve Grisetti]

Is your original footage coming from a miniDV Camcorder?

What are your video project's properties? is your project set up to match the specs of your video footage?

[ssandheinrich]

Steve,

First off, I am in the process of viewing your Sony Vegas Pro Essential Training on Lynda and it is excellent! There is so much information within that I have to watch it several times to grasp everything. Keep up the good work.

The film was shot with a SONY Digital 8 Handycam DCR-TRV520 Camcorder. I selected one of the clips and had the project match. These are the settings in this pic. https://app.box.com/s/lfdtip6fxu6kiwpmdfvr

When rendering, it says it will take 2.5 + hours and continues to increase in time. The video is maybe 2 minutes.

[Steve Grisetti]

Thanks for the kind words about my lynda.com course, ss!

Your project properties and definitely what you should be using if you're editing Digital8 video captured over FireWire -- so I'm not sure what's up with your rendering time. A 2 minute video taking 2 1/2 hours to render? Should take more like 30 seconds.

So something is wrong somewhere -- I just don't even know where to begin with performance so far off the mark.

Can you post a screen capture of your timeline? I wonder if it's possible you've got a stray clip out there some place on your timeline that's turning your 2 minute project into a 4 hour project or somethign.

Can you start a new project, drop your Digital8 footage into it and just do a quick output as an MP4 -- just to see what happens?

[ssandheinrich]

I wanted to clarify that I have not let the render finish but it has run over 15 minutes. I get impatient and cancel it. Most of the time, I output to avi. I'll try MP4 and let you know what happens.

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[Kent Frost]

If you look into the settings of your AVI, are you outputting as DV or Uncompressed?

[ssandheinrich]

I'm not seeing any settings about compression. I have uploaded a Word document with a screen shot of my settings. https://app.box.com/s/q8jh3bklc5q11bwhpxhei1x43i1kehtm

Thank you for your help!

Oh..by the way....I have captured almost 30 tapes already so I really don't want to repeat the capture. I hope it is just a rendering issue since the AVI plays fine on the computer.

[Steve Grisetti]

Can you start a new project, drop your Digital8 footage into it and just do a quick output as an MP4 -- just to see what happens?

[ssandheinrich]

That worked! Thank you very much. What format should I select for the best output or doesn't it matter as long as it is MP4?

[Steve Grisetti]

It depends on what you're going to use your finished movie for. Are you creating a video to post to YouTube, outputting your movie so that you can use it in another project, creating a video to port to a DVD, etc?

[ssandheinrich]

I would say I want to output to DVD for long term preservation since they are family memories. I may take some events and render for Youtube as well but the bulk would be for DVD.

[Steve Grisetti]

The best Render As template for DVD footage is the Main Concept MPEG2/Program Stream NTSC (or PAL). Some people prefer to output the video and audio channels separately, however, and then combine them in DVD Architect using Main Concept MPEG2/DVD Architect NTSC (or PAL) video stream to output the video and Sony Wave64/48,000 32-bit for the audio. For most people, though, outputting the Program Stream gives good enough results, so they keep it simple.

For online video, you'll want to Render As Sony AVC/Internet 1920x1080 30p or 1280x720 30p. This will produce an MP4 that should produce excellent results when loaded to YouTube, Vimeo, etc.