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Shorten DVD

Postby Richardmotsch » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:17 pm

I am kind a new to editing. I have made my first DVD and it is to long for 4.7 GB DVD disk (total length is 1 hr. and 40 min). How can I shorten it without loosing quality and content. I am hoping there is a format that will shorten my DVD.
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Re: DVD life expectancy

Postby Steve Grisetti » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:33 pm

How long is your movie?
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Re: DVD life expectancy

Postby Richardmotsch » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:32 pm

movie is 1 hr. and 40 Min. Total length
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Bob » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:01 pm

Hey guys, this discussion was split between two topics. This is the more appropriate topic, so I moved the posts from the other topic to here.
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Bob » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:23 pm

Richard, the format of a DVD is pretty tightly controlled by specification. You can't really change the format. What you can do is change the compression used to create the DVD. Higher compression means the video will take up less space. The trade off is that too much compression will adversely affect the quality. It's difficult to say how much compression you can use before the quality becomes unacceptable because that will vary with the content. But, you can generally get about an hour and a half on a standard 4.7 GB disc and still have very good quality. Your size is a little longer than that rule of thumb, but it's close. I'd give it a try and see how it turns out.

How you specify the compression will vary depending on which program you are using to create the DVD. The program may have a "make it fit" option, a quality option, or possibly a bit rate setting. Which program are you using?
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby vkmast » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:02 pm

A good move, Bob.

Richard,
as Bob says above, it would help to know what software you use.
Bit rate x time = file size.
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:24 am

...or use a dual layer DVD.
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Steve Grisetti » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:04 am

From my correspondence with Richard, I know that he's editing in Sony Movie Studio and authoring his DVD with DVD Architect Studio.

First, Richard, know that it's impossible to fit that much video on a DVD without losing some quality. A DVD disc can hold about 70-80 minutes of video, and you're asking it to squeeze in about 50% more. As John notes, you do have the option of using a dual-layer DVD, which can hold about two hours of video. But home-burned dual-layer discs sometimes don't play smoothly in a lot of players. Still, it might be worth a try.

That said, Richard, you have three choices:
1) In DVD Architect Studio, go to File/Optimize Disc and click the Fit to Disc button. This will reduce the bit rate (quality) of your video in order to squeeze more onto a disc. But DVD Architect has a limit it will squeeze down, so it still may say your 100 minute video is too long. But it's worth a try.
2) Use a free download to DVD Shrink. DVD Shrink does an excellent job of squeezing videos down to size. However, I can't offer any support for it so, unless someone on this forum can walk you through it, you may be on your own. Though the results, I've heard, are excellent!
3) Finally, the option I'd recommend: Cut your 100 minute video into two 50 minute projects. Trust me when I say that no one has the patience to sit through a one-hour or longer DVD. When I produce my personal DVDs, I shoot for a goal of keeping my movies between 30 and 45 minutes -- which seems to be just about the attention span of the average viewer. Breaking your DVD into part 1 and part 2 will not only mean you'll be able to output your discs at 100% quality, but it also means your audience is more likely to watch the entire movie.

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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby vkmast » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:10 am

Dusted off my old copy of DVDShrink 3.2, which I have not used once since I started using Movie Studio Platinums and Vegas Pros a few years ago.
I imported an old 85 min Video_TS folder to the Full Disc backup window in DVDShrink. Video / Automatic Compression Settings showed 85% / 100 for Main Movie.
While OK, to me it seems that the OP with his 100 min project might not like the compression he'd get.
So a double-layer DVD (only Verbatim DVD+R DL recommended) or Steve's option 3 would probably be better options for him.

If he wants to go the full route in Movie Studio Platinum and DVD A Studio, there is an excellent tutorial linked below that can be applied to Studio versions as well.
https://www.moviestudiozen.com/free-tutorials/dvd-architect-studio-50/493-how-to-compress-a-long-video-onto-a-dvd
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:02 am

vkmast wrote:...So a double-layer DVD (only Verbatim DVD+R DL recommended)...

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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Chuck Engels » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:56 am

Hi John !! Been on Holiday?
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:29 pm

No Chuck. Major internet problems over the last five weeks. Now back online. :-D
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Dave McElderry » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:47 pm

We had Major Internet problems too, but we took it up with his Colonel and he fell in line. :mrgreen:
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Peru » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:50 pm

Dave McElderry wrote:We had Major Internet problems too, but we took it up with his Colonel and he fell in line. :mrgreen:


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Very punny.
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Re: Shorten DVD

Postby Chuck Engels » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:46 pm

The virtual world has missed you John, welcome back. I bet you wish you would have gone on holiday :)
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