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The vanished internal optical drive

Postby super8guy » Thu May 03, 2018 3:05 pm

:(
Every 5 years or so I get the urge to upgrade my laptop. This cycle I am disheartened to learn that most manufacturers no longer include an internal OD. (No, I don't wanna drop upwards of $4K for a Falcon.) I know that an external OD can do the job, but when I travel, and even at my desk, I'm not looking to add yet another piece of equipment.

I am interested to learn how the muvipix community is responding to this development when it comes time to upgrade. If you know of a good computer for video editing and DVD authoring w/ an integral OD, plz drop a name. I'm resisting going the external OD route, but I realize times have changed once again.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu May 03, 2018 3:29 pm

1. Thinkpad W530 Laptop, Core i7-3820QM Processor 8M Cache 3.70 GHz, 16 GB DDR3, NVIDIA Quadro K1000M 2GB Memory.

2. Cybertron PC - Liquid Cooled AMD FX6300, 6 cores, 3.50ghz - 32GB DDR3 - MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 4G, 4GB Video Ram, 1024 Cuda Cores.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby Dave McElderry » Thu May 03, 2018 3:56 pm

HP is still making a lot of laptops with optical drives in them. Watch out though for the touchpad. Some of the HPs don’t have separate buttons for the left and right mouse buttons. Not a big deal if you use an external mouse, but worth mentioning.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby sidd finch » Fri May 04, 2018 11:52 am

Optical Drives are just becoming less and less a part of my workflow that it is rare that I use one. In those times I do I have a external one to use.

Personally, I think that it is easier to keep up with the technology instead of drawing a line in the sand. It might make sense to see what the impact is to move your DVD's to an external hard drive system.

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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby Peru » Fri May 04, 2018 1:19 pm

I'm still doing DVDs because I haven't found a satisfactory way of creating menus on flash drives.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby super8guy » Fri May 04, 2018 1:55 pm

Chuck Engels wrote:I love Lenovo laptops and most of them still come with an optical drive

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Anti-Glar ... Src=detail

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Anti-Glar ... etail&th=1


I really appreciate the links Chuck. No matter how often or persistent I tried to search for an OD on Amazon and Newegg, my efforts were never smarter.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby super8guy » Fri May 04, 2018 2:06 pm

sidd finch wrote:Optical Drives are just becoming less and less a part of my workflow that it is rare that I use one. In those times I do I have a external one to use.

Personally, I think that it is easier to keep up with the technology instead of drawing a line in the sand. It might make sense to see what the impact is to move your DVD's to an external hard drive system.

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So true about the futility of drawing a line in the sand. Some of my customers prefer DVDs, and a well made menu is much more pleasing than the product on a thumb drive, HD, etc.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby sidd finch » Fri May 04, 2018 3:33 pm

I can certainly appreciate the convenience of a DVD. just pop-in and play.

I have started posting my videos to my vimeo account. I then e-mail the links to the folks that request them. I like that they can be viewed on a multitude of devices, from computer, to smartphone, to streaming to TV.

My preference is that if someone looses the DVD I have to send another one. This way I just resend the link. I can also set the privacy on the video so that it will need a password to play.

You could always create an e-mail with a menu page that hyperlinks to your videos.

I still agree that DVD's are just plug and play :)

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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby super8guy » Tue May 22, 2018 9:55 pm

Well, I finally was able to find this computer on Amazon: 2018 Newest Lenovo Business Flagship Laptop 15.6" Anti-Glare Touchscreen, Intel 8th Gen i7-8550U Quad-Core Processor, 12GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, DVD-RW, Webcam, HDMI, Dolby Audio, 802.11ac, Windows 10

I have no idea if it would be adequate for my needs. I shoot in 720 x 60p and do multicamera editing. In your opinion would this computer suffice? I use both Movie Studio 14.0 Platinum and Vegas Pro 14.0 and will upgrade to MSP 15.0 when I get a new computer.

Specs include Intel Integrated HD Graphics. I've always had an Nvidia graphics card and wonder if I won't be pleased (or the NLE will be aggravatingly slow) w/o a dedicated graphics card.

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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed May 23, 2018 11:57 am

You should be able to get the same laptop or similar model with an enhanced graphics card, usually nVidia. That model is similar to mine only mine is a few years older. I can edit HD with Premiere Elements 15 without any trouble. I do have it maxed out at 16GB of RAM however and have the upgraded video card and I also upgraded the standard hard drive with a 1TB 7200rpm drive.

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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby super8guy » Wed May 23, 2018 1:11 pm

Chuck Engels wrote:You should be able to get the same laptop or similar model with an enhanced graphics card, usually nVidia. That model is similar to mine only mine is a few years older. I can edit HD with Premiere Elements 15 without any trouble. I do have it maxed out at 16GB of RAM however and have the upgraded video card and I also upgraded the standard hard drive with a 1TB 7200rpm drive.
You can see my specs below in the signature, the Lenovo W530.


Chuck- It sounds like you are recommending a better video card than stock. I'll have to look into that to see if it is offered/obtainable. That specific Lenovo (w/o the nVidia card) is fairly cheap at $711.
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Re: The vanished internal optical drive

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed May 23, 2018 10:10 pm

If you can get a better card it definitely won't hurt that's for sure.
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