Big projet crash!

[Frangio]

Hardware: Intel I7 860, RAM DDR3 8Gb, ATI HD-5850 1GB, SSD Intel X-25 160GB, HDD W.D. Caviar 2TB, Blu Ray Plextor PX-B940SA 6x, Windows 7 Pro 64bit.

After an initial problem with PE9 (did not import the audio track) I finally made my first movie (TM500 Panasonic 1920x1080 25fps).
From a movie more than 3 hours (more than 800 clip for 19Gb total)I was left with an hour and a half long movie.
When I started to add transitions, effects, titles, etc.. the program has started to slow down and crash more often with insufficient memory message. After the reset was needed 5' (five minutes!) to load the project.
Eventually he became unstable and was not able to add the menu for the disc.
The project is too big? I guess this is the problem with projects because of short movie everything works fine.
Now I removed half of the clip and split the project into two. Now no longer crashes but it always takes 5 minutes to load.
Finally the last problem. I can also divide the project into 3-4 parts, but is there a way to end to make a Blu-ray, and then only with a main menu with a single index of all the scenes?

Frangio

[Steve Grisetti]

I always recommend working on a large project in small segments (Segments of no more than 15 minutes each). You can then output each finished segment and join them all together in one final mix movie and you won't have to deal with the instabilities you're seeing.

But there are two other possible issues:
1) That TM700 shoots in several modes. Make sure you are not shooting in 50p mode. Shoot all of your video in FA mode at 50i and then select the appropriate project preset for your Premiere Elements project and you should also see much more stability.
2) Whenever you see red lines above your clips, render your video by pressing the Enter key (or selecting the Render option under the Timeline menu). When your video is rendered, the red lines will turn green and the program will be much more stable and responsive.

[Chuck Engels]

5 minutes to load is not an exception, I have had projects that have taken 10 - 15 minutes to load. The more there is in the project media panel and the more stuff is on the timeline the longer it will take. Don't worry, that is normal. Just think of the days, about 15 years ago, when it took 24 hours just to render a 5 minutes segment. Believe me, waiting 5 minutes for a project to load is no big deal

[JohnnyO]

I agree with Chuck. The amount of clips you have, the amount of tracks you use, the amount of effects you have, the amount of transitions you have in your projects, all have an impact on the load time of a project. And you have a very long project with lots of clips. And you need to keep in mind that those 3 hours of clips, even though brought down to a 1.5 hour project, are still part of your project, As long as they remain in the project bin.
If there are a lot of un=used clips inthe project bin, you may find that removing them will make the project load faster and increase stability.

As to not leave Steve out, I have run into the habit of dividing my projects into smaller segments. Most of them are 15 minutes or less. Some up to 30 minutes.
What you need to do is export each segment to a 1920x1080 HD MPEG 2, then join all theMPEG2s into 1 project and then burn that to BlueRay.

[Frangio]

Ok! I feel reassured! Divide them into 15-minute clip.
Render video by pressing the Enter key it's very interesting. Will consider them.

What you need to do is export each segment to a 1920x1080 HD MPEG 2...

OK can do it!

...then join all theMPEG2s into 1 project...

Yes, but how? With what program?

...and then burn that to BlueRay.

And the menu of the Blu ray disk? scene selection, Chapters, etc.. what shall I do?

Another question: the "Archive and cut"-function (from de menu "File"), is not useful to decrease the commitment of the PC?

[Steve Grisetti]

When you are finished with each segment, go to Share/Computer/MPEG and use the preset for a 1440x1080 file.

Then, after you have all of your pieces finished and output, open a Premiere Elements for HDV. Each of those MPEG segments should import right in.

You can then place them all on your timeline, add your menu markers, select a disc menu and output your BluRay disc!

[Chuck Engels]

Steve, do you a have step by step for this in any of your books?

[Steve Grisetti]

Sorry no.

Though, in the chapter called Share Your Movie, I do have a sidebar article called "Output video for use in another project" in which you tell you how and tell you which settings to use. It's technically not step-by-step, but it does include the information.

[Frangio]

Perfect! I will it!
But one question. Why burn the Blu ray at 1440x1080 and not at 1920x1080? As the TM500 records in full HD and also the project on PE9 was done at 1920x1080 25fps (I live in Italy) as well as saving the clip of 15 minutes to 1920x1080?
Thank you very much!

P.S.
What book is it about?

[Steve Grisetti]

Because 1920x1080 video uses square pixels to create its video and 1440x1080 uses pixels that are wider than they are tall, both 1920x1080 video are exactly the same size, Frangio. Non-square pixels are just the television format and that used by HDV camcorders.

You can see our books on Premiere Elements 9 here:
http://Muvipix.com/pe9.php

[Frangio]

So in summary to see if I understand correctly.
I shot with the camera set to 1920x1080, I did a project on PE9 at 1920x1080, I saved the 15-minute clip in MPEG2 at 1920x1080, I joined to 1920x1080, I see on the blue ray connected to a TV Full HD 1920x1080 ... But I have to burn the Blu-Ray at 1440x1080?
But the TV will not have to do a scaling to get the definition from 1440 to 1920? And there will be no loss of quality?
If I burn the Blue ray at 1920x1080 what would happen? I would see the TV with the black bars?
Excuse my ignorance ... but I should want to understand something more!

[Steve Grisetti]

As I said, Frangio, 1440x1080 and 1920x1080 video is the same size. There is no difference in resolution, and you will not see any loss in quality whatsoever.

1440x1080 is just the television way of drawing a high-definition 16:9 video frame.

[Chuck Engels]

Steve is right, in the end there is no difference between the two. Exporting with either setting will produce the same results.
And if I am wrong I know that Bob will correct me

[Bob]

Is that an invitation, Chuck.

Actually, there is a difference in horizontal resolution. But, I wouldn't obsess over it. 1440x1080 has 480 fewer horizontal pixels than 1920x1080. That sounds like a lot until you realize that the difference is spread out over the entire width of the screen. That's only a third of a pixel difference per pixel. 1440x1080 uses rectangular pixels with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.33, which exactly compensates for that. 1440x1080 will display exactly the same size on your HDTV as 1920x1080 (which uses square pixels). So, while 1920x1080 does have finer horizontal resolution than 1440x1080, you will be hard put to see the difference. You will get excellent results with either.

[Chuck Engels]

Thanks Bob