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Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby George Tyndall » Sat May 07, 2011 7:51 pm

Because 1) I like to give my clients a matched set of discs, one SD and one HD, and 2) Blu-ray discs don't come in a LightScribe version 3) I was forced to look into what SureThing software (5.2.647.0 "Deluxe Edition"), which I downloaded long ago but never used, can do.

What an epiphany!

Simply stated, I'm left nearly breathless by the quality of the printed photo from a slide show on a SureThng dark-red canvas background. (I used the Epson-Full Face setting with my Epson Artisan 50 CD/DVD printer.)

Additonal advantges are 1) much faster than Lightscribe 2) images are in color and 2) I needn't tie up a DVD burner with labeling.

I do have some questions for those who have experience with this technology:

1. Is it true that moisture can damage the printed surface over time?

2. Do I need to inform clients that such an eventuality is beyond my control?

3. Is there a spray or other product I should apply to inhibit degradation?

4. Is it absolutley necessary, as I suspect it is, to burn the contents of the disc before applying the image to the printable surface?

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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby RJ Johnston » Sun May 08, 2011 2:28 am

I took a wet rag and wiped it across a DVD label I printed on my Canon printer. I had waited a few days after printing it. Most of the ink came off or smeared.

I was wondering how much it would cost to have a CD/DVD duplicator service print labels, labels that aren't affected by mositure the way ones printed on $50 printers are affected. I looked up Kinkos, but see that it is now owned by FedEx: FedEx Office Print & Ship Center

They probably don't have a minimum, so you could do 2 at a time, maybe.

http://www.fedex.com/us/office/copyprin ... uplication
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby Paul LS » Sun May 08, 2011 3:56 am

I always spray my printed discs with a layer of lacquer to protect the printed image. You can buy lacquer specifically for the purpose but I just use a general pupose spray type.
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby Dave McElderry » Sun May 08, 2011 4:39 am

Epson claims that the inks they make for the Artisan series are more water resistant than ever, but I think it's a fact of life with inkjet printers. I haven't yet actually made a point of trying RJ's test on discs made with my Artisan. Why don't you let a disc dry for a couple of days and then give it the test? I may just do the same with one of mine since you've piqued my interest. I do some video transfer work for hire and have used inkjet labeling without worrying too much. I've never had anyone come back and complain. Generally I think a person's hands/fingers would have to be pretty wet to do damage. This conversation came up a few years ago and I remember someone (maybe it was RJ) saying then that they used a spray lacquer for this purpose. RJ, have you had any problems with lacquer over time, such as yellowing? Is there a particular brand that you use?
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby Bob » Sun May 08, 2011 4:50 am

The Claria ink used by your Artisan 50 is water resistant. It can bleed and smear some though. My printer uses Claria ink also and I don't get smearing with ordinary handling. I haven't tried holding a printed disc under the faucet though. Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim make waterproof DVD discs that are supposed to prevent bleeding and smearing -- they are glossy like a photoprint, not matte though. I haven't tried them. I don't believe Blu-Ray discs come with that coating. But, Blu-ray discs are hard coated, it may be worth testing a Blu-ray inkjet printable with Claria ink to see how it performs.
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby Bobby » Sun May 08, 2011 8:30 am

I have not seen "shelf life" of printed DVDs as a problem. Most of mine from a couple of years ago seem fine. But I do keep them away from light and I always keep the original source code around to reprint if needed.

I never used a spray, but I did use it on photos years ago. I was never happy with how the results looked.
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby Peru » Sun May 08, 2011 8:45 am

I've been printing with a HP printer and have found that the ink will alway wipe off with water.
I save a copy of the disc label (I use Acoustica Label Maker) along with the archived project files in case I need to make additional discs.


I recently printed a disc for an unusual reason:

I had an electric range which had the thermostat temperature markings on the backsplash worn and shabby looking. I took a photo of the temperature markings and edited them in Photoshop Elements, cleaning them up nearly perfectly.

I then printed the image on a printable dvd. I was able to physically separate the "layers" of the dvd by flexing it and peeling it apart so that I had only the thin, top layer. I sprayed it with several light coats of a clear lacquer and glued it over the worn section of the backsplash.

I've since scrubbed it with water and household cleansers and it has held up very well.
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby George Tyndall » Sun May 08, 2011 9:39 am

Peru wrote:I've been printing with a HP printer and have found that the ink will alway wipe off with water.
I save a copy of the disc label (I use Acoustica Label Maker) along with the archived project files in case I need to make additional discs.


I recently printed a disc for an unusual reason:

I had an electric range which had the thermostat temperature markings on the backsplash worn and shabby looking. I took a photo of the temperature markings and edited them in Photoshop Elements, cleaning them up nearly perfectly.

I then printed the image on a printable dvd. I was able to physically separate the "layers" of the dvd by flexing it and peeling it apart so that I had only the thin, top layer. I sprayed it with several light coats of a clear lacquer and glued it over the worn section of the backsplash.

I've since scrubbed it with water and household cleansers and it has held up very well.


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Have you considered selling that story to the manufacturer of the printable DVD?
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby VernonRobinson » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:06 pm

I know this is an old post, but I have been using the Watershield DVDs from Taiyo Yuden for a couple of years. I put the disc under running water and there is no smearing. The coating has a slight gloss and that helps add contrast and color separation. I recommend them to everyone who wants to do DVD printing. They are available at SuperMediaStore and other places. Watch out for fake Taiyo Yudens from other unreputable sources.

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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby Peru » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:57 pm

VernonRobinson wrote: I have been using the Watershield DVDs from Taiyo Yuden for a couple of years.

Regards,
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What type of printer and ink do you use?
What is the speed of the DVD (8X 16X, etc.)?
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Re: Wow! Inkjet DVD Printing: A New Convert

Postby VernonRobinson » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:32 pm

Peru,
My Epson RX210??? finally gave up the ghost. I now am using an Artisan 810. I purposefully use OEM inks because of the testing that goes into them. I first started using inkjet printers to print my photographs. Color fidelity and longevity were the primary concerns. Each manufacturer (e.g. Canon, Epson, etc.) put a lot of time and money into testing the combination of ink and materials. While some people swear by 3rd party inks, I purposefully have avoided them primarily for that reason. Also, early on those inks were known to casue problems with print head clogging and the like. I am sure they have improved, but I would still give the nod to the OEMs.

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