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Very basic questions

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Very basic questions

Postby barnacle8238 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:09 pm

I recently got a Sony DSC WX50 camera and have some very basic questions. I'm putting the questions
on the Premiere Elements 8 board because that's what I use to do my editing.

There are two settings for the camera for video. One of the settings is
1080 (1440x1080) MP4
or
720 (1280x720) MP4

and the other setting is
AVCHD 1080 60i
or
MP4 30p

To shoot video for importing into PRE8 what settings (above) should I use if I'm going to
end up with a DVD? What settings if I'm going to end up putting a file on YouTube?

Thanks in advance for any help provided.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:47 am

Well, it all depends.....

How powerful is the PC that you will be using to edit the video? AVCHD is very processor intense so you'll need a well specced PC to use that.

In the absence of a PC powerful enough to go the AVCHD route I would use the 1080x1440 setting. I know that you will be outputting to DVD not blu-ray but by recording at the highest resolution you can always go back and create BDs later, if you so choose.

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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Steve Grisetti » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:38 am

Welcome to Muvipix, Bill!

That camera shoots in AVCHD 1920x1080 when set to FH or HQ mode, and those would be your best bets for shooting video.

However, as John points out, version 8 or Premiere Elements is pretty primitive at editing this video format and it can be pretty hardware intensive. In fact, I wouldn't recommend it at all for editing this format.

Version 11 edits AVCHD much more efficiently. I've been able to edit AVCHD on my dual-core Windows 7 64-bit. You don't say what your hardware specs are, but regardless you'll find that using the latest version of Premiere Elements to edit this format (or even MP4s) will save you a world of headaches.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby barnacle8238 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:37 am

The computer is a Gateway DX4831 with
2.93 GHz Intel i3-530, 6GB RAM, Windows 7
32MB Intel (shared) GMA integrated graphics chip
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Steve Grisetti » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:03 pm

I definitely think you're going to find it very frustrating to edit video from that camera on that computer -- particularly with Premiere Elements 8.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby barnacle8238 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:02 pm

But what are my options? I'm not really ready to get a new computer.
I may be ready to upgrade to Elements 11. But, what about my original
questions?
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby barnacle8238 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:13 pm

For the sake of arguement, let's say I have a fast computer with a really
great graphics card and all the other necessary bells and whistles. And
let's say I have PRE-11. How should I set the camera for optimum movie
taking for DVDs and again for the web?
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Steve Grisetti » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:58 pm

For best results, shoot in AVCHD 1920x1080 in FH or HQ mode.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Bob » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:56 pm

What resolution do you want to upload to YouTube? If you want to upload a high definition video, you will need to shoot in high definition. AVCHD 1920x1080 FX mode is the highest quality, but also the hardest to process. FH or HQ mode will be your best bet with HQ mode the easiest on your computer. If you don't want to go over 1280x720, you could also use your MP4 720 mode and that will be even less taxing.

DVD resolution is 720x480, the same as your lowest setting MP4 VGA. But, you don't have to shoot at that to create a DVD. Premiere Elements can create a DVD from your high definition projects.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Steve Grisetti » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:32 am

Very good point, Bob.

However, the challenge then is that version 8 is not terribly versatile and will likely have trouble editing an MP4.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Bob » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:26 pm

Version 8 does not handle AVCHD well at all. And, that computer has a dual core cpu, not a quad core. AVCHD will be painfully frustrating. Version 11 is significantly better at handling AVCHD. Bill could download the trial and test it with sample footage he shot at the different settings and see how well it performs. If it still doesn't work well enough with that computer, or, if Bill wants to stick with Version 8, the other option is to convert the footage to a more Premiere Elements 8 friendly format, mpeg-2 or mpeg-2 HD for example. The first question though is does he want or need to shoot in HD.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby barnacle8238 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:47 pm

And if I did get a new computer what would be the must-haves for it? You mentioned
quad-core processor. What about a video/graphics card? Mind you, these are home
"movies" not trailers for Hollywood.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:19 pm

Quad Core Intel i5 or i7
Dual 500gb SATA hard drives
Video card with 1gb memory
Windows 7 64 bit version
6gb of RAM
That's a good basic machine for video :)
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby Bob » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:57 pm

The single most important thing is the CPU. Video is cpu intensive. Premiere Elements will utilize all the processors cores when encoding. You want 4 cores, not 4 threads. If you want a laptop instead of a desktop, you'll need to get an i7 to get 4 cores. Mobile i5 has 2 cores. Go by the rated clock speed and Ignore the Turbo Boost speed. The second most important component is memory. 6GB should be fine. If you were running the professional products you would want more. You won't need a high end video card. Try to avoid the 5400 rpm disks and go with 7200 rpm if possible.
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Re: Very basic questions

Postby barnacle8238 » Fri May 03, 2013 8:02 am

I've been playing around with the Sony WX50 camera and importing video clips into Photoshop Elements 8.
By recording at "1080 MP4 - Records in standard image quality (1440x1080)", PE8 seems to handle the
clips just fine. The rendering is pretty slow but acceptable. Comments?
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