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How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:23 am

Hi Guys,
I did an edit a couple of years ago using some 4:3 footage.
I opened it in 16:9 and rendered/burned dvd in 16:9 and it came out nice and full frame on the TV.

I'm using the very same footage, with PR3 set at 16:9 for a new edit, and it keeps showing in 4:3, even when I burn to dvd in 16:9.
I'm most of the way through the edit now, and I burned a test dvd, and Grrr. It doesn't fill the screen.

Is there any way I can set my edit timeline to get the picture to fill the frame when rendered & burned?

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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:26 am

PS, I'm using the same dvd player and it shows my old edit full frame, but not this newer edit.
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:09 am

Is it showing in 4:3 on your TV? That could just be because the DVD didn't trigger your DVD player to switch over to widescreen. You may need to do that manually.

But meantime play the DVD on your computer using a program like VLC Player. It should fill a 16:9 space.
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:21 am

Thanks Steve,
I tried the various sizes on the tv, it stays at 4.3, but wider etc. Is there a setting on PE3 to make the aspect ratio bigger?
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:34 am

How does the clip look when you play it on the VLC player (not at full screen)? Is it widescreen?
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:47 am

No, it's not full screen. I just tried burning another dvd, same thing, yet my original that I made before is fine. I wonder if I need to export as a movie avi first? I didn't, I just rendered and then burned to dvd from PE3
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:56 am

It might be worth outputting a 16:9 DV-AVI just to see if the video looks as you'd like it to. Then you can start a new project, use this AVI as your source (ensuring, of course, you've got your project settings set to DV Widescreen) and output your DVD from there.

But if, under the Edit menu, your project settings show that your project is set to Widescreen, the DVD you output from it will automatically be a widescreen DVD.
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:05 pm

I outputted a '16:9' to avi and it was the same. I made another dvd, same.
I can't figure it.
My edit settings etc are 16:9. Everything says 16:9 except the videos.
I even tried unclicking 'scale to frane size'...No diff.

I think I'll go make supper and have a glass of wine. I'll come back to it tomorrow (getting later here)

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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:08 pm

Tomorrow, I'll try inputting all the video again, maybe I had 16:9 off when I inputted from DSR-11. That's the only thing I can think of.
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:28 pm

That would make a difference, right Steve?
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:34 pm

Yep. But first make sure your project is set up properly for DV Widescreen.
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Tony Wade » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:40 pm

It is set to dv 16:9 widescreen, but I think maybe it wasn't when I inputted the video. I will re-input and insert/re-edit the clips into the video (Grrr, 2 days work).
It MUST be that? Oh well... :ha:
Thanks for your help Steve, I'll let you know how I do. I'm gonna do a test first with 10 secs of video.
Now, supper...
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Bob » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:22 pm

Are you sure you didn't use a 4:3 project, burn a 4:3 dvd and let the DVD player or HDTV stretch the video to 16:9 ? Stretching 4:3 to fill a 16:9 screen is usually a setting in either the dvd player or hdtv.

4:3 video in a 16:9 project will introduce black bars on the sides (pillar boxing). Being 16:9, this won't stretch. The embedded black bars will give the appearance of 4:3 on the 16:9 tv which sounds to me like what is happening.
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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Gerlinde » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:49 pm

Tony, I may be on the completely wrong track, but could it be that you stretched your footage in your earlier project to fill the frame? In that case you would right click your video in the program bin and select Interpret Footage and set it to widescreen.

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Re: How Get Full Frame (wide) in PE3

Postby Bob » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:06 pm

That would do it too!
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