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Finding hidden temp files

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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby Peru » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:39 pm

Did you clear the cache?
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby Chris B » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:01 am

I always use an old program (from 2000) called Spacemonger. There was a free version that has since been replaced by a commercial version and there may be other tools that do similar things. Here's a link to the old version which seems quite happy on my Win 10 installation.
http://kwsupport.com/2013/04/space-mong ... ill-alive/

It produces a picture of you drive so you can easily see where the space is going. Here's my C drive.
before cleanup.png


So - There 's a chunk of "delivery optimisation" files in light blue on the right which disk cleanup will remove. In the middle are two large games that are sitting under "Program Files" (for speed of loading). On the left at the top I can see the users directory and there's a big chunk of "onedrive" files from my phone. But the bottom left shows an "AMD" folder. This turns out to be old video driver installation files that I wasn't aware were there.

A disk cleanup and deleting all but the most recent driver files and suddenly I've gone from 23GB free to 49GB free. :-D
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:20 am

I used something similar years ago. There is a highly recommended free program

https://windirstat.net/
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:27 am

Peru wrote:Did you clear the cache?


I had moved my PrPro, PS, & AE cache a long time ago to D. In March I deleted the old cache on C.
In March I moved Bridge cache to D and deleted old cache on C.
Yesterday I moved ACR cache to D and deleted old cache on C. It was only a few Gs. That was the only cache to delete on C.
Yesterday I cleared Temp files from Sony PlayMemories, which I think was not very much Gs if any.

My App Data folders Local, Local Low, & Roaming have maybe 5 GB total, which is was that back in March after clearing all the old caches. So, there really isn't anything big going into those folders.

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Looks like a cool program. I have Win7 Professional.
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:56 am

I use the NikCollection in Photoshop as a plug-in. It opens in its own UI panel. Does Nik have its own cache file? Or since this is a plug-in the temp file is goes into the PS cache?

I have the DigitalJuice Juicer that is a stand-a-lone product. The cache file is set to Ram preview. I cannot find its cache file anywhere. I have a support ticket in with DJ. Odd, since they went with subscription only my user name/password no long works.
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby sidd finch » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:13 am

Could there be a temp file hiding out somewhere else?? I did a quick right click on my folders to see what size they are maybe there is a larger than average folder our there that is causing the issue.

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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:30 am

Sidd, I've been using the hover method on each folder to see file size. If it is large or states over X amount then I looked in that folder. I may have missed something. Still haven't heard from DJ.

Chris, thanks for the graphic and suggestion!
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:23 pm

Here is a screen shot of the C drive. What are the two large items? Is this normal? Thanks
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby Chris B » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:46 pm

pagefile.sys - Virtual memory
hyberfile.sys - "Hibernate" file - Originally used to suspend to disk. These days used to fast boot windows (AFAIK)

Both are perfectly normal and shouldn't be deleted.
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby sidd finch » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:48 pm

Pagefile.sys is the Windows paging file, also known as the swap file, or virtual memory file. It's a file that Windows uses as Virtual Memory. Virtual Memory is disk space Windows uses when it runs out of physical memory, or RAM.


The hiberfil.sys is meant to be the same size as your MEMORY (which is ram + virtual). The amount of virtual memory that you have can vary widely depending on your windows settings and how you use your device. If you don't ever use hibernation, then disable this and you can get that disk space back

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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:38 pm

New territory for me so please walk me thru this. Screen shot of my settings. The screen saver mode quit working so I changed the settings on the display. I normally do not turn off the computer everyday, more like once a week. Guess I should shut off daily? If I change the settings with the hibernate file disappear or reduce?
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby karri » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:36 pm

Chris B wrote:A disk cleanup and deleting all but the most recent driver files and suddenly I've gone from 23GB free to 49GB free. :-D


I ran disk cleanup and went from 45 GB free to 65 GB free, thanks! :TU: :-5 :TU:
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:52 pm

karri, glad you freed up space!

Chris, is there a program for Windows 7 Professional like the one you posted, Spacemonger?

I've scoured the C drive for any caches that may not have been moved or cleared from when I started this thread. It is all on the media drive now. And caches have been cleared. In March when I started this, I had 44 GB free and today I am down to 18 GB. I am at a loss for why the memory is filling up. :(

I found this article about saving space. My Documents, Music, etc. is all on my media drive "D". The article talks about moving the Paging file to the media drive. And how to stop hibernation. Since I do not understand or maybe apprehensive is more like it, I am afraid to make changes.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-7- ... n-to-size/
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby Chris B » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:00 am

Before you start making wholesale changes it's probably worth working out where the space has gone so I'd really recommend running spacemonger and looking at where your space is being taken up. Spacemonger works all the way back to windows XP (and probably earlier - it's that old).
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Re: Finding hidden temp files

Postby momoffduty » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:41 pm

Thanks Chris. I will try that route. Good idea on seeing where the space has gone. I'll post back my results.
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