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Ron's music downloads

Postby Matthew Max » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:43 pm

This is where I'm going to post what I'm doing with Ron's music each time I use more than a few seconds of it. So far, I use lots more than a few seconds. I don't normally use music much, unless it's for teaching people to sing in the Spanish lessons I make, because I have to build learning climates that don't depend on musical backgrounds. But Ron's stuff inspires me to find reasons to use it.

I already said my wife loves the California birthday videos I made with Ron's music. Beautiful.

I just finished a three-part series on the Lego Users convention in Indianapolis. I plan to cover the sister event in Chicago too. For this series, I used Ron's Midday Mood. It added a wonderful wonderful easy-going, happy, noninvasive atmosphere to the sophisticated toy time. His music gives momentum to a string of clips that show how wholesome and intellectual good, clean fun can be. Man, music is powerful. It can do so much when you pair it right. The first two lessons in this series do teach and use Spanish, but the third one is purely Lego delight, Midday-Mood style. As happens so often, the lighting in the convention room was subdued for video, but my little $300 LED light once again came through for me and made the footage usable. Nobody wanted me blinding them with more light. They gave me special access. (I just realized that this may be a boring post.)
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:08 pm

Great stuff Matthew, it's always nice to hear what people are doing with video and with the products from Muvipix :)

As far as low light goes, have you ever heard of Neat Video?
It is a tool that most professional videographers find they cannot do without.
It helps to clean up the graininess of poorly lit video. It is not terribly expensive and well with the cost.
Check it out and maybe give the trial a test.
http://www.neatvideo.com/

There are quite a few here at Muvipix that use this plugin.
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:30 am

Chuck Engels wrote:As far as low light goes, have you ever heard of Neat Video?......
http://www.neatvideo.com/
There are quite a few here at Muvipix that use this plugin.

Chuck is right. This is a very useful tool to have for tidying up noisy, low light clips
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:19 am

Would you expect the low-light plug-in to work for me, since almost all my work involves about a 930 bit rate, delivered or viewed on the web?
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:26 am

The plugin works in Premiere Elements, you add it to the clip like an effect during editing. You won't believe the difference it will make in the finished product :)

Check out the examples
http://www.neatvideo.com/examples.html
They are not exaggerated or touched up, it really works that well ;)
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:37 am

But I'm talking about much reduced bit rate, not original footage. Are you saying that what Neat Video cleans up will be apparent in the final product of, say, 930 bit rate? That's all that I care about--whether it works in these exports and whether it works only at a certain bit rate.
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:45 am

Doesn't matter what or how you export it Matthew, it will make low light footage look better.

I recommend giving it a try on some low light footage and then export and see how much difference it makes.
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:53 am

Well, I'm really glad you have recommended this. I will give it a shot. Thanks.
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:59 am

This doesn't look like it's for Premiere Elements on a 64-bit computer, which is what I use most. It does say it's for Premiere Pro:

Neat Video v2 Demo plug-in for Premiere (Win): DOWNLOAD 32-bit / DOWNLOAD 64-bit; EXE, 3 - 4 MB; license agreement
noise reduction plugin for Adobe Premiere Pro (64-bit) CS5 and (32-bit) CS4 / CS3 / 2 / 1.5 / 1 for Windows
and for Premiere Elements (all 32-bit) 9 / 8 / 7 / 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 for Windows
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:14 pm

Premiere Elements is 32 bit no matter what your Operating System is Matthew ;)
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Bob » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:45 pm

Chuck is correct. You need the 32-bit version which will work with the 32-bit Premiere Elements. The 64-bit download is for Premiere Pro CS5 which is 64-bit. Plugins have to match the application. Drivers, on the other hand, generally have to match the OS.

One thing you have to keep in mind is that Neat Video limits the frame size that can be used with the plugin.

Frame sizes supported:
VCD: 352x288 and up to 640x480 (Multimedia); in Demo edition;
SD/DV: up to 720x480 and 720x576 (DVD size); in Home edition;
HDV: 1280x720, 1440x1080; HD: 1920x1080; and higher; in Pro edition.
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Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:51 pm

Bob, those frames sizes are for the original video while editing in Premiere Elements, they have nothing to do with the exported video size, correct ?
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Bob » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:15 pm

I would think it would have to do with the exported video size.

I've read the Programmer's guide and this type of Plugin generally gets called three places where the size could make a difference: 1) when the effect is applied to the clip, 2) when the clip is rendered for preview, and 3) when the clip is rendered for export.

The plugin generally doesn't see the orginal video frame. Premiere builds a frame in a buffer and passes that to the plugin. This buffered frame can be different sizes depending on what Premiere is going to do with it (e.g. preview or export). For 1 and 2 above, the frame size are normally relatively small and should work in the demo, 3 is the size of the output frame so anything larger than 640x480 won't work. I haven't tried the demo plugin, but I'm assuming you could preview but not export larger sizes. There are ways for the plugin to obtain information about the clip and the project, so theoretically it could use that to block action, but I'd be surprised if they went that far. I would think they would want you to be able to see how it works and get you to pay for the ability to export at the size you want to use.
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Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:34 pm

The Pro Version $99 works with HD video up to 1080p, the home version is for SD video only as far as I can tell.
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Re: Ron's music downloads

Postby Matthew Max » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:41 pm

Hey, I have misjudged my situation somewhat. The video looks far better on my Toshiba Windows 7 32-bit laptop, 15.1. The picture looks grainy on my new LG LED LCD 23" screen, especially when I view it full-screen. I'm using default resolution settings--1366 x 768 on the laptop, and 1920 x 1080 on the LG 23" screen.

What is going on? I'm real interested in this.
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