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Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Chuck Engels » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:09 pm

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I have a bunch of old reel to reel tapes that belonged to my father. He loved to write songs and sing and many of the tapes are his recordings. One of the tapes is a demo he did for a couple of Nashville music producers. The songs only have him singing and playing rhythm guitar, I would like to add some piano, drums, lead guitar and possibly other instrumentation.

What I am looking for is software that can determine the key and beats per minute and then would allow me to add instruments and pretty much add to the music automatically with maybe some minor adjustments. Don't know if this even exists or how to go about trying to find something, so I came to the most knowledgeable place I know, Muvipix !!

Any help and information is greatly appreciated as always, looking forward to learning what options are available :exc:
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby sidd finch » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:21 pm

Hi Chuck, You can use Adobe Audition to do multi track recording. Because the tapes are coming from an analog source you will not be able to determine the beats per second key etc.

What you could try (e.g time intensive) is to use the time quantize function to make the analog music conform to a beat. You would need to but some kind of digital click track on one track then time quantize your dads analog tracks to the click track.

Remember that the pitch will vary based on the speed of the recorder playing back so even if you dad recorded in the key of C the speed of the machine could move the music pitch a few semi tones.

Now if you want to play along with the existing recordings after you put them in audition just tune your instruments to the pitch you hear playing back. (e.g play by ear)

The digital multi track recorders have made this a whole lot easier than the old days.

Also, Sony has a pretty good multi track recorder in the program Acid.


I also found this on youtube:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgvSm7MQOjg[/youtube]

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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Chuck Engels » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:31 pm

Hi Sidd, Thanks for the suggestion but I am hoping there is something much easier out there.
I don't want to play along, I want the program to add the additional instrumentation.
Something like Garage Band does. I have already captured the tapes using Audacity and have nice stereo tracks in MP3 and WAV format. Just want to be able to add that to a program and let the program do all of the hard work. At least that is my thought if there is something out there that can.
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Steve Grisetti » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:22 pm

SonicFire Pro comes bundled with SmartSound ExpressTrack in version 10 of Premiere Elements, Chuck. It's got a 30-day free trial.

If you don't have version 10, you can download the free trial from the site. It's a great PC alternative to Garage Band!
http://www.smartsound.com/sonicfire/

And for a cheaper, easier to use program, try Sony's Acid Music Studio, by the folks who make DVD Architect Studio.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/musicstudio
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Chuck Engels » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:27 pm

Thanks Steve but can it add music to an existing MP3 file like my dad's old recordings? I have the 30 day free trial of SonicFire Pro but it doesn't seem to be able to do that, at least not that I could figure out. I need a program that can figure out the beats per minute and the key of an existing MP3 and then add additional instrumentation to it.
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Bob » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:39 pm

You need something like Band-in-a-Box. http://www.pgmusic.com/ Band-in-a-box works on chords that you enter along with a style that you choose to generate the various tracks. But, it has an audio chord wizard that can take an existing audio file and analyze it to determine the chord structure and tempo for you. If the music tempo varies, you can press a key to the beat as you play through the song in the wizard to make a tempo map that keeps track of the variations and that will be used to keep everything in sync when you generate additional tracks later. Here's a tutorial on the chord wizard, it's an older version, but it's close enough to give you an idea how it works. It's a bit hard to find on the site so I'm linking to it for you: http://64.40.109.185/pgmusic/wmv/ACW_Tutorial.wmv

Band-in-a-box can do some pretty amazing things, but if the styles don't fit the source very well, the results can be pretty bad.

They don't appear to have a trial version.
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:02 pm

Thanks Bob, that looks like exactly what I need !! :exc:
Sure would like to try it out on one track first though.
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby RJ Johnston » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:34 pm

Chuck Engels wrote:Thanks Bob, that looks like exactly what I need !! :exc:
Sure would like to try it out on one track first though.



Chuck, there's a 30-day money back unconditional guarantee from PGMusic on any product you buy from them.
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:49 pm

Thanks RJ :TU:
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Re: Searching for a Music Creation Program

Postby RJ Johnston » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:19 pm

The Coyote ForteDXi plug-in can makes instruments sound more real when MIDI playback is used: http://www.pgmusic.com/coyotefortedxi.audvid.htm

Here is the direct download link: http://64.40.99.154/pgfiles/SetupForteDXi16.exe

Of course there are the "RealTracks" and "RealDrums" that you can buy that contain real instruments.
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