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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Ken Jarstad » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:49 pm

Fascinating (he said, using his best Spock imitation)! Paul, I suppose that means v3 or v4. I still can't get the MC MPEG plugin to work in v2.
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:03 pm

That is just weird, now I can't get Leonard Nimoy out of my head. I just hear him saying 'Fascinating Jim', over and over again.
I might have to go over to iTunes and download one of his albums, and maybe one of the William Shatner albums too :)

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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Ken Jarstad » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:28 pm

Oh my,, what have I done :?: :!: :crybaby:
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby jackfalbey » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:28 pm

The script for Muvipix Trek...

Jack: "For God's sake Jim, I'm a videographer, not a miracle worker!"

Ken: "Your capture methods are quite illogical."

Chuck: "I need all the transitions you can muster, mister!"

Paul: "Well, I suppose I could reroute the encoder through the GPU, and use the extra power for real-time playback, but you've got to give me more time."
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Wheat King » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:20 pm

An Nuts I just realized I'm wearing a red shirt!
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:49 am

:-D :-D :-D I think a number of posts here klingon loosely to the original theme, having suffered some kind of sense of humour warp. I think I'll go and lie down and have a glass of water and a couple of di-lithium crystals!! :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Clayton » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:36 am

Careful of the Tribbles. :monkey:
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Chuck Engels » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:28 am

What a hoot, you guys are great :)
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby ESC in KC » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:01 pm

Interesting thread -- I would like to ask a follow-up question:

I have a similar objective of using HD footage in SD project for pan and zoom purposes. HV20 HDV source captured with HDVSplit and using in Premiere Pro CS3.

When I bring in the M2T file captured with HDVSplit, it needs to be rendered once placed on the Premiere timeline. When I render, it looks pretty bad onscreen. Is this a result of using M2T source? Should I convert M2T to MPEG2 -- and if I do, does that introduce a generation loss?

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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Chuck Engels » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:30 pm

Paul LS is one of our Moderators and would be along eventually to answer this question.
Here is is response to a similar question on the Adobe forum, I think it is the answer you are looking for
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby ESC in KC » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:47 pm

Thanks for the reply. Please excuse me if I failed to understand the information you provided, but I don't think that adobe forum discussion really applies to my issue. It appears to be focused on the AVCHD m2ts format. I am recording HDV and captured through HDVSplit as a "m2t" file.

I am mostly concerned that PrPro CS3 wants to render the M2T file as soon as I drop it on the timeline, and I want to be sure to maintain the highest image quality that I can so I can pan and zoom in a SD project before the final output as SD DVD.

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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Paul LS » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:11 am

Have you Scale to Frame turned off (un-selected) for the clip when you drop the HD on the SD timeline so that you can pan and zoom? Also the preview in the monitor will not be as good as your final export. Having said that if you are down-scaling the clip to SD then as mentioned earlier PPro does not do a very good job of this... although I have heard CS3 is better than PPro2.

You should be able to use either the .m2t or .mpg file on the timeline... rendering will take place on final output anyway as PPro does not have a smart render feature for MPEG. If you want to convert the .m2t to .mpg you can use a number of programs (HDTVtoMpeg2 (free @ http://www.midwinter.com/~bcooley/ ) or VideoRedo, Womble...) these will strip the headers and not rerender the file.
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Postby Andy_E » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:49 am

jackfalbey wrote: I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling several versions of Quicktime Alternative as well as Apple's Quicktime and still have the same problem.


You need to be careful which version of Quicktime Alternative you install. The last version (AFAIK) that had the MPEG2 component in the installer was 1.81. Later versions won't work. Alternatively, you need Quicktime Pro rather than basic Quicktime from Apple.
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby ESC in KC » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:09 am

Paul LS wrote:Have you Scale to Frame turned off (un-selected) for the clip when you drop the HD on the SD timeline so that you can pan and zoom? Also the preview in the monitor will not be as good as your final export. Having said that if you are down-scaling the clip to SD then as mentioned earlier PPro does not do a very good job of this... although I have heard CS3 is better than PPro2.

You should be able to use either the .m2t or .mpg file on the timeline... rendering will take place on final output anyway as PPro does not have a smart render feature for MPEG. If you want to convert the .m2t to .mpg you can use a number of programs (HDTVtoMpeg2 (free @ http://www.midwinter.com/~bcooley/ ) or VideoRedo, Womble...) these will strip the headers and not rerender the file.


Thanks very much for the reply. Yes I have Scale to Frame turned off for the clip and am able to pan and zoom with no trouble. My biggest concern was if there was a better format to work with instead of the M2T files to keep the IQ at its best. I have also reversed the field dominance order and don't really see a visible difference, but apparently that is necessary when placing HD footage (not downscaled) into a SD project.

Glad I discovered this forum. Sometimes when posting over in the adobe forums the 'regulars' get a little snotty and really try and emabarass people that don't know as much as they do! :oops:
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Re: Best settings and capture for HV20 for SD delivery?

Postby Steve Grisetti » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:26 am

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