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What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Tue May 01, 2012 3:33 pm

Final output for SDTV 4:3 has to be 720x480. Camcorder only records 1920x1080. No footage yet shot. How to proceed? :-k
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Chuck Engels » Tue May 01, 2012 3:44 pm

Create your HD project then when you are ready you can export to DVD, not a problem :)
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue May 01, 2012 3:47 pm

Is your camcorder AVCHD or HDV?

Assuming you're editing with Premiere Elements, set up your project for AVCHD (assuming you're shooting in AVCHD) and put your video footage on the timeline. Use Share/Computer/AVI to output your video.

Open a new video project, one set up for 4:3 DV. Important your AVI footage into. You'll have to decide, of course, whether your want your footage letterboxed or if you want it full-screen (with the sides trimmed off).
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Tue May 01, 2012 3:56 pm

For me the problem isn't in how to make it 4:3. I'd probably do it Steve's way (yes, it's AVCHD). The problem is in the original recording. It seems like it would be difficult to record 16:9, framing to 16:9 on the screen or viewfinder, but knowing that the sides were going to be cut off of the final product.

EDIT: I suppose I could make up a little cropping frame for the camcorder screen that would only show me the 4:3. Hmmmm......kinda clunky, but it might work.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Chuck Engels » Tue May 01, 2012 4:55 pm

Dave, why not 16:9 ?
Is there a reason why you are still using 4:3 ?
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Tue May 01, 2012 5:02 pm

Prepping to make a TV commercial, local stations. They don't do anything in HD at the local level. It has to be 720x480. :(
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Bob » Tue May 01, 2012 5:09 pm

Yes, but 720x480 can be 4:3 or 16:9. Do they require 4:3??
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Tue May 01, 2012 5:17 pm

No, but if I do 16:9 it'll end up cropped top, bottom, and sides. I don't think that my client would like that. I suppose I could discuss it with him.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Chuck Engels » Tue May 01, 2012 9:44 pm

Most local stations prefer HD now, at least 720p.
I suggest you get some info from them first.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Wed May 02, 2012 4:43 am

Chuck Engels wrote:Most local stations prefer HD now, at least 720p.
I suggest you get some info from them first.


Yeah, I already did before I made the post. SD 720x480. Several small local stations all under the same ownership - apparently can't afford to go HD yet. It does seem a bit strange because the network feeds are broadcast in HD when showing HD programming, but everything local is SD. I understand that they may not have the equipment for live HD broadcast (news, etc.), but I'd think that if they could broadcast HD from the network that they could do HD local commercials. I guess I don't understand how it works.
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed May 02, 2012 9:15 am

Are you saying that they even prefer 4:3 over 16:9?
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Wed May 02, 2012 10:31 am

I'm sure they'd take either one, but since everything they're broadcasting that's local is 4:3, if I submitted a 16:9 it would end up with the 16:9 inside the 4:3 box, resulting in black bars on all four sides (at least on a widescreen TV). Right?
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed May 02, 2012 11:58 am

I think it would cut off the right and left sides and have bars on the top and bottom.
Didn't realize there were stations that weren't HD and at least broadcasting in 16:9 by now.
At least 80% of everything on the local Atlanta stations is HD now an almost always broadcast in 16:9
I get black bars on the top and bottom of my TV all the time and the right and left sides are cut off.
I hate it when the box score for a baseball game is in the top left corner, I can't even see most of it as it is cut off :(
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Dave McElderry » Wed May 02, 2012 12:17 pm

So you must have a 4:3 TV Chuck?

I made a specific point of watching our local noon news today just for the purpose of seeing the commercials. Can't say I've ever done that before! :) The show and commercials were 4:3, with black to dark blue gradated bars with ghosted station logo filling in the areas on the left and right. There were two exceptions to this. Our local electric company aired a 16:9 commercial, as did an insurance company. These were kept within the confines of the 4:3 area, resulting in black bars on the top and bottom in addtion to the aforementioned gradated bars on the left and right. I can't say that I liked the look very much.

The soaps started a little while ago. HD 16:9, filling the widescreen, and all the commercials were from the network, also in HD 16:9 filling the screen. I'm going back to work now. :-8
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Re: What would you do?

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed May 02, 2012 12:43 pm

Still have a 4:3 32" Sanyo in the living room as the main TV.
My projector downstairs is 16:9 HD.
The Sanyo is over 15 years old now and still works perfectly.
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