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High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Talk about slideshow creation, whether it's with Premiere and/or Photoshop Elements or a third party helper application.

High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby RJ Johnston » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:41 pm

I wanted to demonstrate a slideshow with 1600 x 1200 frames, do it in Premiere Elements 4.0 in a standard NTSC DVD project, have very smooth pans and zooms. The original photos are approx. 2800x2100 pixels. I did not uncheck "scale to frame size." I scaled the images to 115 percent for panning and zooming. Only gradiant wipe transitions were used. It's 20MB file size, so I put it in a zip file for you to download and then unzip and play back in Windows Media Player at full screen (ALT-ENTER).

The codec was Windows Media 9; 1600 x 1200; 24 fps; 5000 kbps; quality 20; 2-pass constant bitrate.

It's only 6 photos of Stanford University. It's about 35 seconds in length. I put it in a loop in Windows Media Player and played it for about 2 hours watching it last night. I think I liked listening to the music -- downloaded from Muvipix.

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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:21 pm

Wow, sounds great RJ, I'm downloading it now.
Can't wait to check it out :)
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Steve Grisetti » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:22 pm

Oh MAAAAAN is that clean and clear, Robert!

I definitely see why, once you go hi-def, you never want to go back!
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:23 pm

Wow again, that is a nice looking slideshow !!
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:24 pm

Steve, that is

do it in Premiere Elements 4.0 in a standard NTSC DVD project


Just used large size images, very nice and it does look like High Def.
And the music isn't bad either ;)
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Bob D » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:05 pm

This is interesting. First, let me say that the pictures are bright, clear and vibrant to watch.

But this make me wonder if I may doing slide shows incorrectly, or less effective. My normal process is to resize my photos out of PSE to a standard selection of 1024 X768 (close to Steve's recommendation of 1000 X 750). My pictures start out around 2048 X 1536. I then keep Scale to Frame unchecked. From here I resize down if I have to or just do my pans and zooms.

Based on Roberts work, he is advocating a slightly larger size than I usually bring over and checking the Scale to Frame and up sizing the pictures (115%) when necessary. Given the results I'm not sure if it is strictly this set of actions or his mention of
The codec was Windows Media 9; 1600 x 1200; 24 fps; 5000 kbps; quality 20; 2-pass constant bitrate.
which I'm not sure where you set all that stuff. The major downside or concern I would have is the issue with a larger project having PE choke on the file sizes.

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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:54 pm

How well will it work with a 60 or 100 image slide show?
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:02 am

I'd have to try 60 or 100 slides. I think I have the hard drive space. I would definitely want to apply effects such as shadow and highlight to the images in Photoshop before I brought them into Premiere Elements (or do that thing I do with 1-frame stills on the timeline). That way shadow/highlight wouldn't have to be applied to 150 frames of the same image in Premiere Elements. That kind of stuff could really slow things down.
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Gregg Kimball » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:10 pm

Very nice Robert, I do a lot of still photography and create slide shows of trips and events so I am going to try all your tricks on my next project. =D>
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Bob D » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:22 pm

...or do that thing I do with 1-frame stills on the timeline


Something new? What is this technique? I haven't heard of this before? And if you are making the changes in Photoshop, why would this impact long render times in PE?

Sorry for all the questions.

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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:32 pm

RJ Johnston wrote:I wanted to demonstrate a slideshow with 1600 x 1200 frames, do it in Premiere Elements 4.0 in a standard NTSC DVD project, have very smooth pans and zooms. The original photos are approx. 2800x2100 pixels. I did not uncheck "scale to frame size." I scaled the images to 115 percent for panning and zooming. Only gradiant wipe transitions were used. It's 20MB file size, so I put it in a zip file for you to download and then unzip and play back in Windows Media Player at full screen (ALT-ENTER).

The codec was Windows Media 9; 1600 x 1200; 24 fps; 5000 kbps; quality 20; 2-pass constant bitrate.


RJ could you post a bit more detail please?

I would find step by step instructions really helpful as I am trying to put together a slide show but can not obtain the really clear images that your sample shows.

http://muvipix.com/cpg/displayimage.php?pos=-1551

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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:56 pm

The photos are from a Kodak camera and have a frame size of 2832 x 2128. I did not resize these. I brought them into Premiere Elements 4.0 at the original size. My project was NTSC Standard DVD.

After dragging the photos to the timeline, I did not change "Scale to Frame Size," I left that option checked.

I used the Gradiant Wipe for transitions. The images for the gradiant wipe I created in Photoshop CS2.

For the photos that I panned or zoomed, I only panned or only zoomed, not both. I panned in straight lines. In the Motion effect, for zooms I keyframmed the Scale property to go from 100% to 115%, or from 115% to 100%. Just a beginning and ending keyframe were used. For pans, I set the scale at 115%, and then keyframmed just the x or just the y position. For example, I started the photo with it's left edge aligned with the left edge of the frame, then panned until the photo's right edge was aligned with the right edge of the frame.

No need to render a preview.

For exporting: Share > Personal Computer > Windows Media > HD 720p 30 preset > Advanced.
VIDEO:
Windows Media Video 9
2 - pass constant bitrate
1600 x 1200 frame size
24 fps
Square Pixels (1.0)
5000 kbps maximum bitrate
20 image quality

AUDIO:
Windows Media Audio 9.2
2-pass constant bitrate
96 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo (A/V) CBR

AUDIENCES:
Compressed

I takes a long time to transcode, so do only one or two slides to start with until you are satisfied with the results.

Let me know if you need additional information.
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:01 pm

The 1-frame trick is where you create a slideshow, without transitions, and specify a still length of only 1 frame. After you edit the stills, you export each frame to tiff format at the desired frame size.

Here is an export preset with instructions for resizing photos to 1000x750 where you use the 1-frame slideshow method:
http://muvipix.com/cpg/displayimage.php?pos=-1480
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:02 pm

Chuck, I managed to create a slideshow with 75 stills. It took quite a long time. I've found that it's not the frame size of the source files that makes it slow, but the frame size of the destination file. All things being equal, you can export to a frame size of 64 x 48 and it won't take very long.

The other slow spot is on the 2nd pass of the 2-pass constant bitrate. I found that I can use 1-pass and get acceptable results, but by increasing the bitrate to 6000 kbps from 5000 kbps gives the results I was getting with 2-pass.

Variable bitrate is not so good to use for this. There is just too much stuttering during playback on my machine P4 HT 3 GHz, 1 GB RAM.
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Re: High Resolution Slideshow in Premiere Elements

Postby Chuck Engels » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:58 pm

Thanks for doing that RJ, we sure are learning a lot these days.
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