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Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Discussions about High Definition Television, Blu-Ray, HD DVD and other high definition DVD formats.

Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Chuck Engels » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:11 am

Paul LS wrote:It also has a couple of large hard drives where I store my library of old 50's sci-fi movies that I can playback...


Paul, I never knew you were an old Sci Fi fan :)
What kind of collection do you have, favorites, era, ...?
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Paul LS » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:54 am

My favorites are definately from the 50's... with a few from the 60's. I guess with the invention of the atomic bomb and the onset of the russian threat these movies must have been soaked up by the cinema going public. My personal favorites are generally british, having watched most as a boy... the Quatermass series of movies, "Quatermass Experiment" (1955) released as "The Creeping Unknown" in the US, "Quatermass 2" (1957) released as "Enemy from Space" in the US and "Quatermass and the Pit" (1967) released as "Five Million Years to Earth" in the US. I even enjoy the more even riduculous ones such as "The Trollenbery Terror" (1958) also known as the "Creeping Eye" in the US. There are hundreds of them... I just got "Fiend without a Face" a few days ago, an old 1958 US movie. Generally I buy them on Ebay and now quite a few are becoming in the public domain because of their age.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Bob » Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:14 pm

I remember all those films! :lol:
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Ken Jarstad » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:07 pm

Well, I decided to revive this topic and - wow! It looks to me like it could be split into several others now. I have enjoyed the conversation. Responding to each:

:) China Blue High-definition Disc - I looked into this last year and it didn't appear to have much momentum then. It looks much more promising now since commercial media has already been released in China. I could cheer for this alternative format, too, if it was better for burning videos at home. Although the Chinese bought some of the old Toshiba HD DVD technology cheap they are implementing their own copy protection tech because they know their own folks are famous copyright violators.
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/08/homegrown-cbhd-discs-outsell-blu-ray-by-3-1-margin-in-china.ars
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10303224-1.html
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/02/warner-bros-plans-to-support-cbhd-the-format-war-is-back-on/

I very much liked the idea that I could make an HD DVD video on standard DVD media. Sure it's only 20 minutes or so - just right for family videos. Perhaps the release of this format is behind the recent price drop for Blu-Ray players? We shall see if this format is more friendly to home video enthusiasts than Blu-Ray.

:) The media boxes such as WD TV HD Media Player, Popcorn, HDX 1000 have been brought up before. I checked the Best Buy web site and was surprised to find the Western Digital device is on the shelves locally - and at a new, lower price - $99.99. I asked if they were popular and the clerk didn't know.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8993217&st=hd+media+player&lp=3&type=product&cp=1&id=1218008588808

I still think these boxes are still too much of a "techy" device. They are interesting to me because they are NOT a gamers box and much cheaper. But how do we convince the friends, family and neighbors to buy one of these boxes if they don't keep movies on hard drives or thumb drives?

:) The only horror movies I watch are some of the bad video I've shot!
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Bobby » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:11 pm

Ken, there is supposed to be a newer version of the WD box coming out soon, so that may account for the price drop.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Chuck Engels » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:17 pm

Ken Jarstad wrote: The only horror movies I watch are some of the bad video I've shot!


There is a huge difference between horror and Sci Fi Ken.
Paul is talking about some great Sci Fi films, like 'The Day The Earth Stood Still' or some of the old Flash Gordon movies :)
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Ken Jarstad » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:03 pm

Oooooooh! (he said, slapping hand on forehead). Yeah, one of the BD films we rented is the latest release of that classic 'Journey to the Center of the Earth'. My wife has some doubts she can stand the excitement.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Bobby » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:01 pm

Ken Jarstad wrote:Oooooooh! (he said, slapping hand on forehead). Yeah, one of the BD films we rented is the latest release of that classic 'Journey to the Center of the Earth'. My wife has some doubts she can stand the excitement.


On that, a very good friend from high school is married to Arlene Dahl. Quite the New York socialites. I haven't seen him in years, so never met her, but we do exchange emails once in a blue moon.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:14 am

Looks like BluRay is now definitely dead or stillborn in this thread (poor joke, sorry :-D :lol: )
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Ken Jarstad » Mon May 24, 2010 2:56 pm

Blu-ray player, Magnavox, on Woot today for $60 usd. (refurbished - doesn't play AVCHD)

Topic once again raised from the dead (it's nice to be able to raise something from the dead!)
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Ken Jarstad » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:08 am

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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby George Tyndall » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:51 am

Bobby wrote:Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?


During the first 2 days of sales, buyers of Avatar reportedly purchased 1.5 million disks in the Blu-ray version.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby RJ Johnston » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:53 pm

I just picked up a Sony Blu-ray player, BDP-S370, and can use it to hook up a USB device such as a HDD, or stream video from Netflix, for example. It's also Wi-Fi capable. Plays Divx and WMV as well. I thought it was a good deal for $139.99. I felt like Sony and Fry's Electronics really wanted me to have a Blu-ray player. From now on, if I buy a movie it will be on Blu-ray. But I won't be burning on Blu-ray Disc for a while yet as I don't have a Blu-ray burner or a fast enough computer. I've burned one very short Blu-ray movie on a DVD-RW.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Bob » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:35 pm

During the first 2 days of sales, buyers of Avatar reportedly purchased 1.5 million disks in the Blu-ray version.


At 4 days, it was 2.7 million compared to 4 million regular DVD discs. I've noticed that the Blu-ray section of most the stores I shop at seems to be growing while the DVD section seems to be shrinking. But, Avatar withstanding, I keep hearing that sales of discs (BD and DVD) keep going down.
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Re: Blu-Ray Dead or Stillborn?

Postby Bobby » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:31 pm

I haven't actually bought a disc (BD or DVD) in eons. I guess I filled my collection with the old stuff that I like to get drunk with, and that is it. When we view movies it is either Netflix (BD or streaming) or TW cable's miserable offerings. Not all, but most of the personal video I do lately (and there isn't much) goes on the PBO (Patriot Box Office).

I actually don't like the BDs - too long to load and the diversity of menu and options can get confusing. Yeah the quality is better, but Netflix streaming at 720p seems OK for our use.
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