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Postby Bob D » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:55 pm

I've decided to experiment with the WAX plugins, using PE2. I'm trying to do a simple flip. If I use the plugin on the timeline it looks fine. When I export it as an avi it doesn't behave well. I've put a sample of what I am experiencing in the forum.

For the WAX experts is there something I'm missing?

http://www.muvipix.com/cpg/displayi ... ?pos=-1049
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Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:11 am

Which AVI file format and compressor did you use for exporting?

The problem you are experiencing may have to do with how often keyframes are used in the exported file. The keyframes I am talking about are not the editing keyframes used in the properties panel for keyframming effects. I'm talking about the frames in a video that contain all the pixels, not just "difference" pixels. This option is on the "Keyframe and Rendering" tab of the Export to Movie dialog (File > Export > Movie > Settings).

Try checking off the "Add Keyframes at Edits" option. You can also change the "Keyframe Every n Frames" option to 0 so that there is a keyframe every frame, just like there is for DV-AVI files.

The frames per second might also be too low. Did you happen to lower that?
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Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:45 am

Bob,

After responding to your post the first time, I decided to crank up WAX. I have Premiere Elements 3.0.2, but I get a similar result when I export as a DV-AVI file or if I render a preview and then play back the preview. It seems that DV-AVI doesn't work well with WAX when it comes to that simple flip transition.

What does work is if I export to the Microsoft AVI file format and use the Indeo Video 5.10 Compressor.
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Postby RJ Johnston » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:39 am

Some more testing reveals that exporting to Flash (FLV), MPEG-2, DVD, or DV-AVI aren't good to use when using WAX transitions in Premiere Elements.
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Postby Bob D » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:50 pm

Thanks for the investigation and reply. I'm at least glad it wasn't me! :cool:
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Postby Wheat King » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:17 pm

Hi Bob,

Your effect looks similar to the 3D swivel that you could do inside of premiere elements using any one of the techniques in the thread below. MAybe there;s another reason why you want to use Wax but thought it was worth mentioning just in case...
http://muvipix.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php ... highlight=
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Postby Bob D » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:23 pm

](*,) That will do it!

thanks so much!

Just to finish this off for me I have posted my final result when using Basic 3D effect. It is exactly what I wanted.

http://www.muvipix.com/cpg/displayi ... ?pos=-1054

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Postby Chuck Engels » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:26 pm

Very nice page flip Bob :)
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Postby Jayell » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:02 am

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you want, Bob. There'a also a video transition that does the same thing (Video transition ->3D motion ->Flip over). I think it's the same as your sample (for future reference :-)
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Postby RJ Johnston » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:33 am

Bob, Wasn't the whole point of this post to experiment with the WAX plug-in.
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Postby Bob D » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:49 am

RJ, Yes. I was experimenting with WAX, but as you noted it couldn't do what I wanted for some reason.

Jayell, the flip doesn't display the background correctly on track 1 when I use it. The Basic 3D worked better.

Thanks everyone!
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Postby Jayell » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:49 pm

Bob D wrote:Jayell, the flip doesn't display the background correctly on track 1 when I use it. The Basic 3D worked better.

Ahhh .. I see what you mean! Two different effects .. both worth knowing about. Thanks, Bob!
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Postby Chris B » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:38 pm

As mentioned in another thread (odd how these things come up together) you can do the same thing with the GPU Transition "Card flip" if you set the number of columns and rows to be 1 each.

Chris.

Edit - Oops - I see the other thread is linked above as well :oops:
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