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Pyro AV link capture

Postby JohnSmith3rd » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:07 am

I have a question for anyone who has used the Pyro AV Link. I have a video camera with a blown fire port.
The camera is a JVC hd100 and it has component out. The camera can output 480i and 480i widescreen through the component out. If I were to connect my camera into the Pyro via component in, and use it to send firewire to capture in say Premiere, ( live capture, not from tape ) when I go to capture in a Premiere project set to 480i widescreen, will I get 16x9 480i correctly output from the Pyro?
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:26 am

Hi John and welcome to Muvipix. :wcm:

I am not a Pyro user so if I am wrong here have no doubt that others will jump in :-D but from what you have described I would think it would be OK. Have you tried it?
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby JohnSmith3rd » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:57 am

Thanks, I haven't tried a Pyro yet so I hope the experts in this forum can help me. I have tried other analog to firewire conversion methods ( composite pass through a mini dv cam) but the aspect ratio is wrong in the preview window of Premiere or other avi capture programs.

I'm glad I stumbled upon this site. As a Premiere user I'm glad to see a place for us!
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby Paul LS » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:33 am

A warm welcome to Muvipix John.
Right click on the file in the Premiere Elements Media panel and select interpret footage. There you can change the aspect ratio to widescreen (16:9). The video will then dis[lay properly in the preview window.
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby Ken Jarstad » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:04 am

It sounds to me like you don't yet have a Pyro Link and are thinking of getting one as a work around to the failed port problem. I have used mine to capture from my DVD player via the component connection so it will work that way. As you may have surmised, the component connection only supports standard definition. The Pyro Link really doesn't know anything about wide-screen or 4:3 and will pass through what ever you put in. If Premiere for some reason guesses wrong about the aspect (it happens occasionally) then Paul's remedy will fix it.
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby JohnSmith3rd » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:05 pm

Hi Ken, yes you are correct. I need a workaround for the firewire issue. Some jobs I do require live capture from my camera and the program the client uses captures in 480i widescreen aspect ratio AVI.

From what I have read, using something like a Canopus 110 might not work because the Canopus digitizes the analog input to a Canopus AVI codec , and the output would not unstretch into a 16x9 preview window when capturing. So I was afraid the same might be true for the Pyro.

I may just end up buying the Pyro to see what happens.
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:42 pm

John, be aware that some Muvipix posters have reported quality problems with the Pyro and indifference from Pyro support. If you do buy then you may wish to ensure that whoever you buy from has a good returns policy.
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby Paul LS » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:22 pm

The Canopus and the Pyro both digitize to Microsoft DV-AVI so there is no problem with compatibility. Also note the ADVC 110 does not support component input whereas the Pyro does. If the video comes in as 4:3 simply use the Interpret Footgae to correct it to 16:9 before editing.
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby Ken Jarstad » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:05 pm

I think there was a day when the Canopus 'software' codec was somewhat non-standard and you can still get a free converter on the Grass Valley/Canopus website. Mostly, the problem was they captured DV sound with Type 1 audio where the rest of the industry moved to standardize on Type 2 sound. Those were the days of very slow PCs and Type 1 was easier to capture without problems.

The Canopus hardware converters will produce industry standard DV-AVI files with Type 2 audio.

We hear less and less interest in A/D converters these days. Several people here bought the ADS Pyro A/V Link several years ago and some, including me, had to return the units rather soon for repair. I don't know what the reliability is of the current crop. I notice they made the top of the case flat now, so you could stack something on top of it. Current low price is $127. Works.
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby boogieted » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:04 pm

I am using PrEl 9 for MAC and trying to capture 16:9 video using an ADS Pyro. My project is set as Widescreen, but in the Capture window the sides of the image are "squished" into 4:3. Consequently, the resulting captured clips are 4:3 (squished). For me, the only place i see the "Interpret Footage" command is under the "File" menu, and it is GREYED OUT!
So what can I do to make my clip the right ratio??
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby Chuck Engels » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:32 pm

Be sure you have the clip selected, then go to File/Interpret Footage. Anything you capture with the Pyro Link will be standard definition video, 4:3. if you are trying to use that in a widescreen project you might get a squished effect, what project setting did you use?
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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby boogieted » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:53 pm

DV Widescreen was my setting.
Interpret Footage is greyed out seemingly whatever I try.
I'm beginning to think the Pyro (my 2005 model anyway) forces any signal into 4:3 aspect. I've tried to use it to capture into iMovie tonight and the same thing happens.

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Re: Pyro AV link capture

Postby Chuck Engels » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:01 pm

The Pyro Link, and any other digital converter for that matter, will always capture the footage as only standard definition video 4:3, always ;) Just because your project is 16:9 doesn't make any difference, the video is coming from a non digital source and will only be 4:3. It does not convert the standard video 4:3 format to widescreen, only converts what is put through it to AVI (analog to digital).
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