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Re: Cannot renderr one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:06 am

And that's not even mentioning that fact that it doesn't make sense to go from a 1280x720 project to 1440x1080 or even a 1920x1080 output. You can't add resolution. All you're doing is great a larger file.

So, again, what is it you're trying to accomplish, David? What do you plan to do with your finished movie? That will determine the most efficient workflow.
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Re: Cannot renderr one small segment

Postby Naturopath4you » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:25 pm

WOW !
Thank you all for your many helpful comments and I will find time to watch those videos.
Steve, yes putting the segments on my flash drive and mailing it back would be wonderful.
No, my existing DVD's were NOT Pressed (someone commented on that) pressing is only for orders of 1000 DVD at a time or more. I have them burned as I order 50 at a time since they are very special and only sell 50 or so each year.
I obviously need to take to heart all you are teaching me about formats to use.
All I really care about is making sure the quality is good and moving arms and hands don't have tracing from low res or low FPS speeds and that everything looks good even if viewed on a 25-28 inch monitor.
Now I am actually adding yet another format so to speak since 3 years ago I recorded a 2 day seminar I presented at a medical conference on detoxification. I just realized that I still never did anything with this and I had recorded it with a 30 day free trial of Camtasia. I bought the program and have rendered the 2 days but I may wish to bring them into Premiere elements to do some final touches.
Now I will need to see what company has the best web site for me to sell this stuff streaming with all the things I require such as bookmarking where the viewer left off, monthly and annual pricing. Single view and subscription pricing, protection against downloading etc.
Do you all agree on the format I should be saving in or do you have varying opinions.
I Will read over all your comments more thoroughly and take notes over the next weeks when I have more time, especially on vacation.
Thank you all very much
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Re: Cannot renderr one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:28 pm

Based on our discussions, what format would you like your rendered video in, David?

Is 1280x720 mp4 acceptable? As we've said, since your original project is only 1280x720, saving it as a high-def video (or even 1440x1080) really doesn't have much value.
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Re: Cannot renderr one small segment

Postby Naturopath4you » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:50 am

Okay all of you
Just returned from a conference and leaving again tomorrow for a week but I read all your comments and appreciate them all.
I need to pick a better final rendering format for all my work which as I have said will most likely NOT be put on DVD's but will be offered streaming on a new web site for sale.
If there are one or two best ones to pick for my format to render into, let me know. I will re-read all y9our comments.
My new snazzy computer was back in the shop while I was out of town and lo and behold, in addition to having had one of the enterprise rated 2T RAID drives replaced for a second time, some of my RAM did not pass their memtest so I have now replaced most things except the video card and had them put in 32gigs of RAM which is the max for this unit.
Maybe (don't I hope) my issues will be gone and all I need to do is pick the best resolution to shoot my Cannon VIXIA HFS-100 and the best for final render. The screen capture, which is lower resolution, I will always set to the highest it will take. Any comments on setting the VIXIA HFS-100 and the final render will be greatly appreciated from all of you and I know that Steve is sending me back my 128gig thumb drive with the a final render on his computer
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Re: Cannot renderr one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:02 pm

Based on your original project settings and media, I'd recommend that, for streaming online, we output the video as 1280x720p30 mp4.

Do you have a site that you're going to stream from? At 2 1/2 hours, it's probably too long for YouTube or Vimeo. Though of course, if you have an account on either of these sites that allows you post 30 minute videos, we could output it and post it in 5 parts.

What do you want to do?
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Naturopath4you » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:20 am

Yes I have a site that it looks like I will be using, and they can easily handle 3 or 4 hour video courses as single videos. The company I found, after a great deal of research, is http://www.UScreen.tv
They will take whatever Mp4 or Mpeg or DVD I upload to them and compress it while leaving the quality high, It will be nice to settle on one and I will read through the chapter in the book that was mentioned as soon as I have time to do so. Meanwhile, UScreen.tv will not have any problems regardless of what I give them. They have been doing this for years for small and large companies. Another one I like is called FlickRocket.com but they cannot do as many of the things I need as UScreen can.

Since the Cannon was shot at 1440 x 1080, I would render it at that so that when I move my hands I won't see any tracing
It won't increase the quality of the screen recorder, but it also won't lose any from the Cannon VIXIA Thanks
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:18 am

It doesn't matter than your camera shot at 1440x1080, David. Your project is 1280x720, so I'd recommend we output it at that resolution (which will look great streaming from your site).

That said, do you want me to output the whole 2 1/2 hours as an 1280x720p video?
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Naturopath4you » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:01 pm

Yes Steve,
that would be great, all as one file as it will be put on the web as one class meeting

I guess I was mistakenly thinking that if I reduced the resolution of the VIXIA video in the render, it might cause tracing when my hands move like it used to in the past with 8mm shot are lower res and fps.

If my lack of knowledge has once again made me completely wrong then I will start rendering at the lower resolution from now on.
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:31 am

Okay. I'll try to get this done and in the mail for you by the end of the week, David.

Meantime, I hope that if you appreciate all of our efforts you'll help support the site by buying a subscription so we can keep this site running.
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:05 am

David, I've successfully output a 3 hour 1280x720 video from your video project. It should look good when viewed on a computer as well as posted online. (Though it is a whopping 10 gigabytes in size, even though it's optimized for online viewing!)

For what it's worth, I drilled down into the project far enough to find the bug that was giving you so much heartache. It was a segment of the WMV of your PowerPoint presentation. I replaced this segment with a still photo of the PowerPoint slide (you won't be able to spot the replacement).

As I said earlier, it's probably best to avoid WMVs in Premiere Elements in the future. At least such a large one. One bug in a WMV and your whole project bugs up. One option would be to just use a series of still photos of your PowerPoint slides.

That said, I'll get your thumb drive in the mail to you in the next few days, and we can finally put this project to bed!
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:57 am

Steve Grisetti wrote:David, I've successfully output a 3 hour 1280x720 video from your video project...I'll get your thumb drive in the mail to you in the next few days, and we can finally put this project to bed!

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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Chuck Engels » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:00 am

Steve for President !! :TU:
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Dave McElderry » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:51 am

Yes, Steve deserves some serious kudos for this one. img0225
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby Steve Grisetti » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:55 am

Thanks, guys, but I've already pulled a muscle patting myself on the back. I'm kind of proud of myself getting to the bottom of this challenging project!
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Re: Cannot render one small segment

Postby momoffduty » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:33 am

Yes, Steve has my vote for President too! :YY: Well now Steve, since you are at the moment free from projects and if you can break away from Sidd's stuff maybe I will send you my 3 cameras worth of wedding video and photos for you to work on? :mrgreen:
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