PProCS3 Premiere Elements 2.0 comparison

[hpharley90]

I have been using my CS3 version more lately more than Elements because it seems to render faster when I press enter key.

So for the sake of wondering I made identical project in both programs.

The project is 02;49;16 long. It consists of 3 video tracks and 1 audio track.
Track 1 about 35 seconds long captured from my mini DV camera.
Track 2 a little longer clip. about 2 minutes from same camera..
Track 3 is a television I made in Photoshop Elements 4.0 that is 02;49;16 long.
Track 3 had a blue backround so I used the chroma key and similarity to 78% to get rid of blue and just leave the television and I also scaled track 3 down to 42.0 and track 2 down to 19 and repositioned both tracks and track 2 to be in side television(track 3).

It took PE2.0 67 minutes to render and PPro CS3 about 6 minutes.

Is this normal?

[Steve Grisetti]

That's seriously alarming, Richard.

[RJ Johnston]

Doesn't the Pro version have more than one quality level for previews? Maybe it is on a low quality setting.

EDIT: Just tried in Premiere Elements 4.0. Depending on the complexity of the chromakeying, I'm getting 2 to 5 minutes to render a preview for a similar setup.

[hpharley90]

RJ thanks for giving me an update on how something similar works on your set up.
Pretty much how my Pro version is working.

Doesn't the Pro version have more than one quality level for previews? Maybe it is on a low quality setting.

At this moment I don't know if Pro has more than one quality setting.
But I'm fine with Pro.
I'm wondering why such a large difference in rendering times between Pro and PE 2.0
Again PE 2.0 being the slower of the two.

I just went to Control panel, Add/Remove programs,PE2.0, Change/Remove and clicked repair.
Went through procedure.
Shut down computer then rebooted.
Opened PE 2.0. Changed chroma key similarity setting to 77% from 78%.
Got my red line and hit enter. I gave it 1 minute and it was still incredibly slow.
It only made it to around 2.43% of rendering 1 of 3 video previews in 60 seconds.
No change. Still taking a very long time.

Any body have any ideas on how to get PE 2.0 to render faster or why this could be happening?

[jackfalbey]

Just a wild guess...

Maybe CS3 utilizes your PC's hardware to its fullest, but PE2.0 doesn't because it was written for older PCs? Although that still wouldn't account for that extreme difference...

[Paul LS]

Good point Jack. CS3 can take advantage of video card processor on your graphics card for rendering (for some effects) whereas PE2 can not. In Playback settings in Desktop Display Mode is "Accelerated GPU Effects" checked.

[Chuck Engels]

Talking about specific effects, what about trying this with something other than the Chroma Key?
Maybe something simple like a Blur or Shadow/Highlight change?

[hpharley90]

Sorry about being so long to respond to this thread.

Maybe CS3 utilizes your PC's hardware to its fullest, but PE2.0 doesn't because it was written for older PCs? Although that still wouldn't account for that extreme difference.

Thats a very good possibility.

Good point Jack. CS3 can take advantage of video card processor on your graphics card for rendering (for some effects) whereas PE2 can not. In Playback settings in Desktop Display Mode is "Accelerated GPU Effects" checked.

No I don't Paul. I have standard checked.

Talking about specific effects, what about trying this with something other than the Chroma Key?
Maybe something simple like a Blur or Shadow/Highlight change?

I just tried wave warp. Very slow.
Then I noticed even scaling down to whatever was slow.
So I put that problem to the side and moved on.
I went to capture a new project and I got the "capture device off line. Reset camera".
What the heck is going on I said to myself.
So I captured with PPCS3 and brought the DV-AVI into PE2.0 and I had a red line at top of time line.
The same thing with WinDV.
I decided to uninstall PE2.0 and reinstall and everything is fine now.
The chroma-key is not as fast as CS3 on rendering but everything else is the way it used to be.

I had to use MPEG Streamclip for the first time and I think that made a mess of things.
So I did an uninstall of MPEG Streamclip and registry clean before I reinstalled PE2.0and I'm back in business.
Thanks
Rich