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Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon May 07, 2007 6:44 am

I am looking for a standard (i.e not digital) clock face that I can use as a timer track overlaying a video I am working on (does that make sense?).

Googling hasn't been successful so I thought - I know just the place where someone, somewhere will know.

Thanks in advance for any pointers.
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Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon May 07, 2007 7:27 am

Thanks Chris. I had already found those and with some time and effort I can probably make something of them.

What I am really after is something like a timelapse video clip of a clock face with hands moving - say one frame for each minute. That way the clip length would be less than a minute for the complete twenty four hour cycle (at the PAL rate of 25fps). Obviously a real time clip would be far too long.
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Postby Chuck Engels » Mon May 07, 2007 8:32 am

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Postby ed » Mon May 07, 2007 8:45 am

There's a bunch on youtube http://youtube.com/results?search_query ... rch=Search

Use this site to save the video from youtube (will be flv) http://downthisvideo.com/

Then convert the downloaded file to an editable format with Super ( http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html ) or some other conversion software.
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Postby Chris B » Mon May 07, 2007 4:19 pm

Hmm - sorry didn't get your requirement. I suppose failing the above you could always make one yourself. There's a microsoft powertoy (webcam timershot) that takes a webcam picture every x minutes and puts it somewhere. That might allow you to capture the images which you could import as a slideshow (at 1 frame per picture).

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/down ... rtoys.mspx

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Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Mon May 07, 2007 4:29 pm

Thanks for all of the tips etc.

Chris B - I decided in the end to have a go at making it myself. I did find something approaching what I wanted but it was going to cost UK£99 so I took the DIY economic route.

I have posted some work in progress in the gallery so that you can see what I am trying to achieve. The gallery posting has the basic info. As usual any constructive feedback very welcome.

Thanks again for the input.

As an aside, would anyone else be interested if I spent a bit more time on the clock (no pun intended) so that it showed a full twelve hour cycle in one minute increments?
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Postby Chuck Engels » Mon May 07, 2007 9:36 pm

Hi John,
I think the opacity is fine and I would like to see a sweeping clock hand rather than the 15 minute increments. Overall a very cool idea, where is that street?
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Postby Wheat King » Mon May 07, 2007 10:28 pm

What about throwing the echo effect on it? No idea if it would work... just throwing it out there.
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Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Tue May 08, 2007 2:57 am

Thanks for the feedback. I'll give that echo effect a shot. There are some other comments in another thread but, when I'm done, I'll post a bit more so that you can see thie street scene in context with everything else.

Chuck, the street is in a little town called Knutsford in Cheshire. Every year, first Saturday in May, they have a traditional May Day procession. This short clip is from that. I'll post some more once I have finished editing it all into something more coherent and complete.
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Postby Wheat King » Tue May 08, 2007 11:33 am

This is an interesting effect Could possible use this...

Regarding the Echo effect I have experimented with it a bit and the echo effect seems to only work on clips that have been exported and then brought back into the the project. In other words when I tried to keyframe a clips movement the echo effect didn't work. would liek to know how experiment with the echo effect works out for you, John.
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Postby John 'twosheds' McDonald » Tue May 08, 2007 1:27 pm

Hi Jamal,

I tried the echo effect and played about with the various settings. It didn't do much for the timelapse per se - which following Chris B's suggestion I sped up significantly with the result that it runs a lot more smoothly and the clock now sweeps instead of jerking.

Where the echo effect really came into its own was on the pan/zoom into the balloons. This was to be a transition shot into the next scene and I was a bit puzzled about how best to achieve the move between the two scenes (because a lack of pre-planning meant my 'scene out-zoom' was in the bottom left of the shot and my 'scene in-zoom' is in the top right of the following shot.)

The echo effect should help me match up that scene change much more easily than I thought would be the case so thanks for the heads up on that effect.
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Postby Paul LS » Tue May 08, 2007 1:53 pm

What you need is a Motion Blur effect to leave trails behind the movement, unfortunately this is not available in Premiere Elements... need something like Sony Vegas.
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Postby Chuck Engels » Wed May 09, 2007 9:14 am

You could maybe try the Zoom Trails transition, that's close to the motion blur.
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Postby Wheat King » Wed May 09, 2007 11:17 am

here's a flash tutorial on doing the clock thing. It's flash but the concepts are the same.
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