After Effects and Soccer Ball

[sidd finch]

I am working on a soccer video for a client and was able to download some really cool soccer motion backgrounds from the Muvipix website. I also checked out the Artbeats website and they have some really nice clips of 3d soccer ball video with just the soccer ball on a black background. But the cost is $200 USD for each of the clips. YEOUCH

Is this something I could create from scratch in After Effects, and if so how laborious is the project. I just want to create the motion of the soccer ball on a black background so I can place it in the video.

Sidd

[Chuck Engels]

I have one word for you Sidd, Green Screen

[Paul LS]

One word!!!

[tjodork]

Chuck.
can you elaborate ? I just got AE and would be interested in how difficult that is.
I also got a book on AE a bout 2+ inches thick....so probably not super easy.
Thanks

[Chuck Engels]

The point is that I don't think it takes AE, just a camcorder and a green screen.
You can even use stop motion to create a revolving ball.

The trick would be the 3D part, and AE is not the best 3D animator around anyway.
But if all you want to do is create a revolving ball then Stop Motion with a green screen behind the ball would be a good way to go.

[Bob]

It depends on just what you want to do. The animation in those Art Beats clips is rather rudimentary. If you want to work from a photo or video of a ball and animate that, that's not difficult at all. You can even do that in Premiere Elements. But, AE is not a 3D modeling program. If you want to create a photorealistic model of a ball and animate that, you'll need a 3D program, such as the free open source Blender.

[sidd finch]

What I liked about the Muvipix motion backgrounds is that the ball looks 3d and like it is spinning around. But it has additional background which I would like to eliminate. The Artbeats just has a ball and no background. Granted that the Artbeats is rudimentary, but I am hoping to use the Artbeats concept to create a transition from scene to scene, and to use as a background as I put a player picture with some text.

The thing I noticed is that the Artbeats clip of the ball looked like it revolved in a 360. As if it was really kicked. If I use a green screen I would not be able to capture the spin of the ball in a 360 fashion.

I will see if I can post a copy of the Artbeats clip. I just thought that AE would be able to give me the Artbeats look.

Sidd

[Chuck Engels]

Maybe you can rotoscope the background of the Muvipix Soccer clip?

[sidd finch]

See Chuck that is why your the founder.......simple and easy and no cost just labor. I can do that.

Sidd

[momoffduty]

When you rotoscope, you can't save the flim strip with transparency. Tried this before. There is no option to save as millions + colors.

[Chuck Engels]

You will need to chromakey out the background after.

[Chuck Engels]

The objective is to create a background with one solid color that you can then key out in Premiere Elements

[sidd finch]

The solid color idea is good I can just add green as the background. Since I wiil do this in Photoshop Elements is there a way to do repetive tasks for each photo as a group or is it photo by photo?

Sidd

[Chuck Engels]

If the ball is in the same position in every frame you could maybe create an Action.
But when you go down that road you will need help from someone else

It might not be that hard to do, even without the Action. Export a few seconds and see how the filmstrip file looks in Photoshop Elements.
See how easy or difficult it will be to erase the current background and replace it with a solid color.

[Bob]

I played around with Blender yesterday and created a rotating ball. I exported that as a quicktime mov with transparency and then used Premiere Elements to set a keyframed motion path with scaling.



I'm just beginning to learn Blender and it took a while to figure out how to put everything together. If I had known what I was doing, it wouldn't have taken much time at all.